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Attorney John Hyre specializes in guiding clients through complex real estate transactions, IRA investments, and tax audits. Learn how to manage risks, avoid prohibited transactions, and optimize returns for your real estate ventures. Discover strategies to minimize tax liabilities and navigate IRS audits effectively.
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OREIA 11 01 18 By Attorney John Hyre Iralawyer.com (614) 207-2441 johnhyre@realestatetaxlaw.com
My Qualifications • Attorney, Accountant, REI • I’ve assisted thousands of REI clients nationwide – and still do • REI clients range from brand newbies to large commercial operations • We see lots of “odd” deals • Lease options, subject-to’s, assignments, discounted note purchases, etc.
My Qualifications • Very few CPA’s or attorneys are well versed in RE or SDIRA’s • I know of none who have been through IRA audits, and few who have been through RE audits • I know of none who have beaten the IRS in Tax Court • I have done both – on multiple occasions • We’ll discuss some of the audits and what I have learned
For Whom? • Like Me – Just Going to Reinvest in RE • 60+ years of age • Not there – but will be
Why It Matters • Serious, Serious Money • Most of you “know” this • But you have not acted on it • You do not feel it in your bones • Let’s fix that little problem • Because no action = no results
High Return….High Risk. • Prohibited Transactions KILL IRA’s. • To be avoided at all costs. • Generally cost your IRA 50% to 60% of the balance. • Size does not matter. • Example: IRA with $1,600,000 M lends Mom $1 • Blatant Prohibited Transaction • Costs the IRA $1,000,000
“The IRS Would Never Do That” • Socialism is Expensive – That Healthcare was not Free • IRS is under massive pressure to collect • “…we conclude that the prohibited transactions contained in section 4975(c)(1) are just that. The fact that the transaction would qualify as a prudent investment when judged under the highest fiduciary standards is of no consequence. Furthermore, the fact that the plan benefits from the transaction is irrelevant. Good intentions and a pure heart are no defense.” • Leib v. Commissioner, US Tax Court Case No. 10688-85
Risk Can Be Managed • Where PT’s are concerned, be paranoid • I spend a lot of billable time on this subject. • Until the law becomes clearer, avoid even the appearance of a PT • Stay ahead of IRS – learn faster than they do • Some relevant, obscure and subtle examples: • Lending to/from uncle • Condo owned by IRA • Managing your IRA owned LLC • Remote management = no “services”, SDIRA will force you to delegate
Some Surprise Disqualified Persons • 50/50 JV Buddy • Trustee of most trusts • Other of your IRA’s
Common REI PT’s • Surprise Disqualified Person • Services • Bootstrapping • Indirect Benefit • Extension of Credit • Assignments
Inherited Roths • Arrange to inherit a Roth for tax-free income before retirement • Take tax-free income • Only catch: Mandatory RMD’s • Arrange for young family members to inherit – they may have tax-free income for 6+ decades • Avoid Purchased Inherited Roth • Avoid stupid “get big quick” schemes
UBIT Summary • Three Things Cause UBIT: • Rental of personal property (as opposed to real estate) • E.g. – furniture, construction equipment, meth labs • Borrowing • $100,000 property, $10,000 down, $90,000 borrowed = 90% of income UBIT-taxable • “Continuous Trade or Business” • Law practice, Dairy Queen, Flipping Business
UBIT Summary • 37% tax (+ state rates) after $12,500 income • Form 990-T • Starts SOL • Statute of Limitations 3 -6 years
“Blocker” • SDIRA-Owned C-Corporation • “Blocks” UBIT • 21% Corporate Tax rate • Beats 37% UBIT by 16 points • One-Time Funding from SDIRA • May distribute some or all of profits to SDIRA at will one or more times • May or may not make sense to reduce leverage
“Blocker” • Black Letter Law (not grey) • PRESENT LAW AND ANALYSIS RELATING TO TAX TREATMENT OF PARTNERSHIP CARRIED INTERESTS AND RELATED ISSUES, PART II, Joint Committee on Taxation, 2007 • Used by Universities, Romney, etc. • No “Services” • Careful drafting required • Blocker should not do many passive deals due to Personal Holding Tax
Shared Appreciation Mortgage • JV on continuous business activity (e.g. – flips) means UBIT • Lending generally does not give rise to UBIT • SAM: “Interest” = % of the profit (Interest in note defined as 40% of profit & term “profit” is carefully defined, etc.) • Tax Court has things it wants to see/not see in the Note (e.g. – should not look like partnership)
401k’s Rule • PT Damage • UBIT Exception for Debt-Financed RE • Checkbook Control • Ability to borrow $50k • Mega Roth • “What’s a Roth 401k?” • DOL v IRS • Earned income from side business • Solo v. Regular v. Safe Harbor • Controlled Group Rules (Spousal Exception) • SEP – for Procrastinators
Checkbook LLC’s • Asset Protection • Speed/Convenience • Fees • NOT trusts in most cases • PT Issues • Complexity • Fanatics
The Future • Why the attention? • Expropriation? • Roth’s will disappear – but likely with a “grandfather” • Stay of execution due to Republican sweep • Income limit loophole will disappear • Inheritances will be limited • Tax are unlikely to go down • CB LLC • MAKE THE CHANGE. ACT NOW. • See RISE Act for Democratic game plan
OREIA Offer Regular Prices • Real Estate Investors KISS Guide to Entities $299 • Recorded 2-Day SDIRA Workshop $797 • Live Two-Day IRA Workshop (1 attendee) $2,000 • (12/1 & 12/2 in Columbus, OH – may substitute later workshop date if cannot attend this one) Total $3,096 OREIA Price $1,499
Dec 1 & 2 Workshop • Roth v Traditional • 50% Q&A (vs. $400/hour) • Limit 50 people • Prohibited Transaction – Sick Detail • Choice of Accounts & Forgotten Accounts • Back Door Roth & MegaRoth • UBIT • Checkbook LLC’s • Blocker Corporations, Shared Appreciation Mortgages, Preferred Dividends LLC’s • Audit & Tax Court Experience • Structuring & Networking