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IMDS Supplier Group Any other business CLEPA IMDS supplier group 05 November 2009

IMDS Supplier Group Any other business CLEPA IMDS supplier group 05 November 2009. IMDS Advisory Group (I).

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IMDS Supplier Group Any other business CLEPA IMDS supplier group 05 November 2009

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  1. IMDS Supplier GroupAny other businessCLEPA IMDS supplier group 05 November 2009

  2. IMDS Advisory Group (I) • Tasks * Consideration of supplier interests in IMDS * Negotiation with IMDS Steering Committee (e.g. on use conditions, checks, application codes, ...) * Participation in (some) IMDS Steering Committee meetings • What we do * Approx. monthly meetings (phone conferences) to discuss latest issues * Define common standpoints of suppliers and communicate to SC  "speak with one voice" * Coordinate actions with AIAG and JAPIA • What we reached * Consideration of suppliers interests in e.g. - Use conditions - Recommendation001 - ..... * We established good contact with SC  "our voice is heard"  IMDS Advisory Group is the mouthpiece of the CLEPA IMDS Suppliers Group Volunteers to participate in the work are always welcome

  3. IMDS Advisory Group (II) • Members of Advisory GroupLouis-Sylvain AyralCLEPA Ruth Zschiesche BASF Kate Everitt GKNRupert-Walter Baur ZF Marco Buczilowski Faurecia Helmut Bunke-Lude ValeoPeter Flanker Denso Thomas Hagedorn Hella Daniel Hepp WocoRainer Kurzknabe Dupont Alfred Pristl Mann&Hummel Stephan Schöne FaureciaMichael J. Smith Delphi Thomas Stier Delphi Fred Twardon Al-LightingNiels Warburg Continental Rainer Weber Henkel Peter Weidinger BroseSylvia Assmann Bosch Bibiana Prazenicova JCI Zullo Lorenzo ETRMABirgit Schmidt Brose Anne-Marie Lossy Pierburg

  4. Any other business (I) • Rejections by FIAT (2% tolerance issue)Information from IMDS responsible person at FIAT (Mrs. Katia Zardo)FIAT reduced their IMDS tolerance to 2%. FIAT is automatically rejecting datasheet, if any assembly or subcomponents has more than 2% deviation (driven by requirements of local authorities)Workaround (proposed by FIAT)Mrs. Zardo offered to manually accept all those datasheets, where the (sub)components exceed 2% tolerance as long as the (sub)components weight is below 100g. Please act as following in such cases:1) submit IMDS datasheet as usual2) next day call Mrs. Zardo and tell her the IMDS ID  then she will accept itRemark:* This is an interims solution, until FIAT adapted their systems (timeline??)* It is not necessary to change the "tolerance" field in IMDS to 2% - just the calculated deviation must be <2% No "official" statement from FIAT on this issue (in spite of several request)

  5. Any other business (II) • Experience exchange "Warnings" What are your experiences with the new "checks" in IMDS (https://www.mdsystem.com/html/data/why_more_material_warnings.pdf) If you feel that a specific warnings is not appropriate, please communicate it to SC or helpdesk! • We asked Steering Committee to publish a clarification on how to proceed with warning, including a clear message that a warning does not necessarily mean that a rejection is necessary SC promised (several times) to do so, but did not publish it until today • In discussions with AIAG we learned, that the term "warning" has a very strong meaning in the US(e.g. "Tornado warning")  that's for sure one of the reasons for so many rejections on warnings"Warning" has a stronger meaning than "error" in English we proposed to SC to change the word "warning" into "hint", but could not convince them

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