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Our responses to suffering

Our responses to suffering. Job . How did Job respond?.

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Our responses to suffering

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  1. Our responses to suffering Job

  2. How did Job respond? Job 2:4-8 -- 4 “Skin for skin!” Satan answered the Lord. “A man will give up everything he owns in exchange for his life. 5 But stretch out Your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse You to Your face.” 6 “Very well,” the Lord told Satan, “he is in your power; only spare his life.” 7 So Satan left the Lord’s presence and infected Job with terrible boils from the sole of his foot to the top of his head. 8 Then Job took a piece of broken pottery to scrape himself while he sat among the ashes.

  3. How did Job respond? Job 2:4-8 -- 4 “Skin for skin!” Satan answered the Lord. “A man will give up everything he owns in exchange for his life. 5 But stretch out Your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse You to Your face.” 6 “Very well,” the Lord told Satan, “he is in your power; only spare his life.” 7 So Satan left the Lord’s presence and infected Job with terrible boils from the sole of his foot to the top of his head. 8 Then Job took a piece of broken pottery to scrape himself while he sat among the ashes. • He grieved.

  4. How did others respond? Job 2:9 -- His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity? Curse God and die!" • His wife gave in to despair.

  5. How did others respond? Job 2:11-13 -- 11 Now when Job’s three friends—Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite—heard about all this adversity that had happened to him, each of them came from his home. They met together to go and sympathize with him and comfort him.  12 When they looked from a distance, they could barely recognize him. They wept aloud, and each man tore his robe and threw dust into the air and on his head. 13 Then they sat on the ground with him seven days and nights, but no one spoke a word to him because they saw that his suffering was very intense.

  6. How did others respond? Job 2:11-13 -- 11 Now when Job’s three friends—Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite—heard about all this adversity that had happened to him, each of them came from his home. They met together to go and sympathize with him and comfort him.  12 When they looked from a distance, they could barely recognize him. They wept aloud, and each man tore his robe and threw dust into the air and on his head. 13 Then they sat on the ground with him seven days and nights, but no one spoke a word to him because they saw that his suffering was very intense. • His friends sought him out.

  7. How did others respond? Job 2:11-13 -- 11 Now when Job’s three friends—Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite—heard about all this adversity that had happened to him, each of them came from his home. They met together to go and sympathize with him and comfort him.  12 When they looked from a distance, they could barely recognize him. They wept aloud, and each man tore his robe and threw dust into the air and on his head. 13 Then they sat on the ground with him seven days and nights, but no one spoke a word to him because they saw that his suffering was very intense. • His friends entered his pain.

  8. How did others respond? Job 2:11-13 -- 11 Now when Job’s three friends—Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite—heard about all this adversity that had happened to him, each of them came from his home. They met together to go and sympathize with him and comfort him.  12 When they looked from a distance, they could barely recognize him. They wept aloud, and each man tore his robe and threw dust into the air and on his head. 13 Then they sat on the ground with him seven days and nights, but no one spoke a word to him because they saw that his suffering was very intense. • His friends sat with him in silence…for 7 days!

  9. Perspectives that hinder us… We think our ultimate end is to feel good. We view ourselves as ultimately good & in need of growth. • C.S. Lewis – “We are not merely imperfect creatures who need to grow, we are rebels who need to lay down our arms.”

  10. Perspectives that hinder us… We think our ultimate end is to feel good. We view ourselves as ultimately good & in need of growth. We actually think this world is our ultimate homeland.

  11. Perspectives that hinder us… • Peter Kreeft – “The point of our lives in this world is not comfort, security, or even happiness, but training; not fulfillment but preparation. It’s a lousy home, but it’s a fine gymnasium.” We think our ultimate end is to feel good. We view ourselves as ultimately good & in need of growth. We actually think this world is our ultimate homeland.

  12. Job 3 After this, Job began to speak and cursed the day he was born. 2 He said: 3 May the day I was born perish,and the night when they said,“A boy is conceived.” 4 If only that day had turned to darkness!May God above not care about it,or light shine on it.

  13. Job 3 5 May darkness and gloom reclaim it,and a cloud settle over it.May an eclipse of the sun terrify it. 6 If only darkness had taken that night away!May it not appear among the days of the yearor be listed in the calendar. 7 Yes, may that night be barren;may no joyful shout be heard in it.

  14. Job 3 8 Let those who curse certain dayscast a spell on it,those who are skilled in rousing Leviathan. 9 May its morning stars grow dark.May it wait for daylight but have none;may it not see the breaking of dawn. 10 For that night did not shutthe doors of my mother’s womb,and hide sorrow from my eyes.

  15. Job 3 11 Why was I not stillborn;why didn’t I die as I came from the womb? 12 Why did the knees receive me,and why were there breasts for me to nurse? 13 Now I would certainly be lying down in peace;I would be asleep. Then I would be at rest14 with the kings and counselors of the earth,who rebuilt ruined cities for themselves,15 or with princes who had gold,who filled their houses with silver.

  16. Job 3 16 Or why was I not hidden like a miscarried child,like infants who never see daylight? 17 There the wicked cease to make trouble,and there the weary find rest. 18 The captives are completely at ease;they do not hear the voice of their oppressor. 19 Both small and great are there,and the slave is set free from his master.

  17. Job 3 20 Why is light given to one burdened with grief,and life to those whose existence is bitter,21 who wait for death, but it does not come,and search for it more than for hidden treasure, 22 who are filled with much joyand are glad when they reach the grave? 23 Why is life given to a man whose path is hidden, whom God has hedged in?

  18. Job 3 24 I sigh when food is put before me,and my groans pour out like water. 25 For the thing I feared has overtaken me,and what I dreaded has happened to me. 26 I cannot relax or be still;I have no rest, for trouble comes.

  19. More responses… Eliphaz –sensitively protests against Job’s anguish & confusion…urges repentance(Job 4-5) • Job 6:24-26 -- 24 Teach me, and I will be silent.Help me understand what I did wrong.25 How painful honest words can be!But what does your rebuke prove?26 Do you think that you can disprove my wordsor that a despairing man’s words are mere wind?

  20. More responses… Eliphaz –sensitively protests against Job’s anguish & confusion…urges repentance(Job 4-5) • Job 7:20-21 -- 20 If I have sinned, what have I done to You, Watcher of mankind?Why have You made me Your target,so that I have become a burden to You?21 Why not forgive my sinand pardon my transgression?For soon I will lie down in the grave.You will eagerly seek me, but I will be gone.

  21. More responses… Bildad – accuses Job of criticizing & casting doubt on God (Job 8) • Job admits he is not perfect, but thinks God can handle his questions…

  22. Job 9:1-12 -- Then Job answered:2 Yes, I know what you’ve said is true, but how can a person be justified before God?3 If one wanted to take Him to court, he could not answer God once in a thousand times. 4 God is wise and all-powerful.Who has opposed Him and come out unharmed? 5 He removes mountains without their knowledge, overturning them in His anger. 6 He shakes the earth from its place so that its pillars tremble. 7 He commands the sun not to shine and seals off the stars. 8 He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea. 9 He makes the stars: the Bear, Orion, the Pleiades, and the constellations of the southern sky. 10 He does great and unsearchable things, wonders without number. 11 If He passes by me, I wouldn’t see Him; if He goes right by, I wouldn’t recognize Him. 12 If He snatches something, who can stop Him? Who can ask Him, “What are You doing?” More responses… Bildad – accuses Job of criticizing & casting doubt on God (Job 8) • Job admits he is not perfect, but thinks God can handle his questions…

  23. More responses… Zophar – calls Job to get right with God so the suffering will stop (Job 11) • Job dismisses this theology… • Job 13:1-5 -- Look, my eyes have seen all this;my ears have heard and understood it.2 Everything you know, I also know; I am not inferior to you. 3 Yet I prefer to speak to the Almightyand argue my case before God. 4 But you coat the truth with lies; you are all worthless doctors.5 If only you would shut up and let that be your wisdom!

  24. More responses… Elihu – angrily (arrogantly???) enters the debate to break the impasse (Job 32)

  25. More responses… • Job 32:1-5 So these three men quit answering Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2 Then Elihu son of Barachel the Buzite from the family of Ram became angry. He was angry at Job because he had justified himself rather than God. 3 He was also angry at Job’s three friends because they had failed to refute him and yet had condemned him. 4 Now Elihu had waited to speak to Job because they were all older than he. 5 But when he saw that the three men could not answer Job, he became angry. Elihu – angrily (arrogantly???) enters the debate to break the impasse (Job 32)

  26. Observations… Job’s friends end up focusing on defending their faulty view of God & chastising Job. Job increasingly interacts with God & increasingly looks to him for help.

  27. How do we let suffering draw us near to God? Develop a robust theology of suffering(train) • For ourselves: • Learn to be good waiters (not home yet) • Let our appetites and taste buds develop • Brings motivation to sacrifice

  28. How do we let suffering draw us near to God? • Heb. 12:1-3 -- Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart. Develop a robust theology of suffering(train) • For ourselves: • Learn to be good waiters (not home yet) • Let our appetites and taste buds develop • Brings motivation to sacrifice

  29. How do we let suffering draw us near to God? Develop a robust theology of suffering(train) • For others: • Gives God a chance to win through when on trial • Can help others see He is not a cosmic killjoy and not a great watchmaker…He cares & is near

  30. “A godly missionary served God faithfully among an unreached people group over a long period of time. He did not see anyone from that community come to Christ during his lifetime. After his death a young missionary went to take his place and was surprised to find almost all the people responding to the call of the gospel. He asked them why they did not respond during the time that great man was among them. They responded that this old missionary had told them that if they became followers of Christ they would not fear death. This impressed them, but they needed to see whether it was really true. So they waited until he died, and seeing the way he died made them all want to become Christians.” • -Ajith Fernando, The Call to Joy and Pain How do we let suffering draw us near to God? Develop a robust theology of suffering(train) • For others: • Gives God a chance to win through when on trial • Can help others see He is not a cosmic killjoy and not a great watchmaker…He cares & is near

  31. How do we let suffering draw us near to God? Turn to the Lord rather than “bowing up” under suffering • 1 Peter 5:7 -- Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

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