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Art of ID Consultation ID Fellowship Orientation. Paul Pottinger, MD, DTM&H July 1, 2011. OBJECTIVES. Nuts & Bolts for: UW Inpatient Consult Services UW Outpatient ID Clinic General principles for consultation. CAVEATS. You already know this…. You can do this….
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Art of ID ConsultationID Fellowship Orientation Paul Pottinger, MD, DTM&H July 1, 2011
OBJECTIVES • Nuts & Bolts for: • UW Inpatient Consult Services • UW Outpatient ID Clinic • General principles for consultation
CAVEATS • You already know this…. • You can do this…. • Yes it’s fun (“It’s Good to be the Fellow”)
ID Fellowship: Mission To create successful physician scientists in academic infectious diseases • Outstanding clinical training • Unmatched research opportunities
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • MEDCON ID telephone consults 2 weekends SCCA / FHCRC UWMC
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • Harborview Medical Center
Pharmacy Support Rupali Jain, PharmD UWMC 598-4416 rupali@uw.edu Jeannie Chan, PharmD HMC 744-5854 jdchan@uw.edu
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • Harborview Medical Center • Puget Sound VA WWAMI
MEDCON • Docs in WWAMI region can call you 24 / 7…. • Free “educational” service • They greatly appreciate your help, and will manage pts as you recommend • Please be nice… even if they don’t deserve it! • Please keep database updated.
MEDCON • Docs in WWAMI region can call you 24 / 7…. • VA fellow takes these calls when on duty. • On days off, UW ID fellow takes over. • Please run cases by UW General ID attending by phone if ANY doubt whatsoever! Calls tend to fall off over year… but calling is encouraged!
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • Harborview Medical Center • Puget Sound VA • Seattle Children’s Hospital
ID Fellowship: Structure • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • Harborview Medical Center • Puget Sound VA • Seattle Children’s Hospital • Outpatient continuity general ID clinics
ID Fellowship: Structure • Additional Clinic Opportunities • Hepatitis • STD • TB • Hansen’s • VA • Travel • Overseas HIV • Year 1: Clinical ID Training • Inpatient consultations at 4 hospitals • University of Washington Medical Center • General infectious diseases • Solid organ transplant ID • Oncology and stem cell transplant ID • Harborview Medical Center • Puget Sound VA • Seattle Children’s Hospital • Outpatient continuity general ID clinic • Years 2 & 3: • Continuity HIV clinic
ID Fellowship: Didactics • Early July of first year: 2 week introduction to clinical infectious diseases, with hands on microbiology course. • Late July of second year: Principles of STDs training course, with lectures on HIV and STDs, and focus on research practices. • ID board review and lectures for fellows every Wednesday throughout the year.
Citywide ID Clinical Conference • Weekly case conferences on Wednesday afternoons provide an opportunity for fellows to present interesting cases, practice presentation skills, and get input from other ID practitioners on management. • Different ID services rotate presenting cases: UW general ID, UW SOT, SCCA (oncology), Harborview ID, VA ID, Children’s ID. • Didactic sessions for fellows precede or follow the clinical conference .
“Mandatory” Consults? • HIV pts at HMC seen by HIV service • Scary in micro rounds (Certain MDRO’s, multiple + BCx’s, etc. • Review case • If care or plan sketchy, contact team and strongly offer consultation
Think Like a Consultant • Whose Patient is this? • Name, Rank, & Contact info for caller • Attending & Service • What is the question? • Diagnosis? • Management? • Mediation?
Think Like a Consultant • Urgency? • Often fine to give preliminary rec’s and staff following day • “My attending wants this staffed right now:” Please let your attending know, regardless of time of day
Think Like a Consultant • Please Remind Caller: • In order to see the pt, we need a written request in ORCA: “Consulting ID for assistance with management of X”
Think Like a Consultant • Curbside? • Generally NOT recommended… but it happens anyhow • ALWAYS offer to see the patient • If you have to ask > 2 questions, it’s probably best to strongly RECOMMEND a consult
Think Like a Consultant Is this patient infected? If so, does the infection explain the syndrome? What are the host & bug factors here?
This is Your Service! “It’s good to be the fellow” Use your own style for teaching Attending always there to back you up
Dx Recommendations • Consider Implications of Testing • Want a biopsy or BAL? Instead of demanding them, suggest consultation with performing service to get their input… if they say no, your attending will make a call.
Dx Work • Micro Labs extremely helpful • Notify them of tough cases before micro rounds M/W/F 11-12 • You also have access 24/7… use it! • Seek Primary Data • Radiology, Path, OR… go where the data are!
Abx Recommendations • Drug Name • Generic please • Route • Acknowledge access issues • Dose • May vary by indication • Renal or hepatic adjustments • Drug interactions • Prolonged infusions may be helpful
Abx Recommendations • Duration • Stop date / criteria • Monitoring Labs • Troughs, CBC, CMP, ESR, etc • Guidelines at www.uwantibiotics.com • Followup • IV abx: UW ID clinic within 2 weeks when possible
RN Support at UWMC ID Clinic Josette Pierre-Antoine, RN Please notify them with home IV plans…. 598-8788 or 598-7750 or id_clinic@uw.edu Jeanne Wolf, RN
Orders for Inpatients • Generally we do NOT write them. • Exceptions: • Direct request from primary team by phone (usually orthopedics) • Exotic micro lab maneuvers • Outpatient IV abx for 4-S patients
Communication Pearls: Notes • Initial Consults: • “We have been consulted by Dr. X of service Y to assist in the management of problem Z.” • ORCA templates saves time.
Communication Pearls: Notes • Initial Consults: • MS may write, but must forward to you; only their PMH, SH, FH counts! • MD (you or resident) must write note; please oh please include ROS: “all negative except as noted in HPI” • All notes then forwarded to attending for signature (not just CC’d).
Communication Pearls: Notes • Initial Consults: • You may dictate new SOT consults, and new UWMC consults on busy days (e.g. clinic days). • IF YOU DICTATE: • 1) Call in your recs, and • 2) Write a summary of your rec’s
Communication Pearls: Notes • Followup Notes: • Please write notes whenever clinical issues arise or a change in recommendations are made. • We are emphasizing time-based billing… please stay tuned! • Please discuss note plan with attending each day (who needs a note?)
Communication Pearls: MD’s • Get notes done ASAP, but call with rec’s before writing • If they don’t like your rec’s…. • Acknowledge primary team’s expertise • Frame rec’s with evidence & likely odds of success or failure • Recognize ideal vs. practical approaches, and offer alternatives
Communication Pearls: MD’s • “Honey vs. Vinegar” • A teaching opportunity • Take the high road (even 4PM Friday) • No chart wars EVER • Engage the attendings (yours & theirs) Keep “off topic” rec’s out of writing (but DO discuss verbally)
Communication Pearls: Pt’s • You are here at request of Dr. X for assistance with problem Y. • Be honest, but defer to primary team (no splitting!) • Remember, your classmate will probably inherit this pt in f/u.
Communication Pearls: • What have you liked working with fellows? • What has cheesed you off?
The Obvious • Never fake it. • ID attendings want to hear from you early & often, especially early in the year, or any time with urgent issues. • Think about what you did and did NOT like from consultants as the primary doc.