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TechnoTN-2004 Brussels, 13 th Feb 2004

TechnoTN-2004 Brussels, 13 th Feb 2004. The Introduction of Bachelor-Master Programme in Germany Industry’s Perspective. Dr. Kruno Hernaut. Example: Variety of academic engineering titles in Europe. Akademiingeniør Bachelor of Arts Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor of Science

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TechnoTN-2004 Brussels, 13 th Feb 2004

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  1. TechnoTN-2004Brussels, 13th Feb 2004 The Introduction of Bachelor-Master Programme in Germany Industry’s Perspective Dr. Kruno Hernaut

  2. Example:Variety of academic engineering titles in Europe Akademiingeniør Bachelor of Arts Bachelor of Engineering Bachelor of Science Civilingeniør Civilingenjör Diplom-Ingenieur Diplom-Ingenieur ETH Diplom-Ingenieur (FH) Diplomi-Insinöör Diplomirani Inženir Doktor-Ingenieur Dottore in Ingegneria Engenheiro Europa-Ingenieur Ingenieur (grad.) Ingeniør Inginer Insinööri Ingeniero Químico Ingeniero Superior Ingeniero Técnico Ingénieur civil Ingénieur diplomé Ingénieur industriel Ingénieur technicien Inženyr Inžinier Inżynier Magister Inżynier Master of Arts Master of Engineering Master of Science Okleveles mérnök Okleveles üzemmérnök Sivilingeniør Teknikfræðingur Teknikumingeniør Verkfræðingur

  3. Variety of educational systems What are the differences ? different types of universities different degree levels different degree profiles  different titles different lengths of study Criteria relevant for the labour market:  Competence Level  Competence Profile No clear correlation with the Title !

  4. European Higher Education System (“Bologna”) PostgraduateStudy 3 - 4 Years GraduateStudy 1 - 2 Years UndergraduateStudy 3 - 4 Years Typical options for Higher Education Systems Consecutive Graduate school Integrated Short TCD(Doctorate) PostgraduateStudy 3 - 4 Years LongDoctorate 4 - 5 Years Doctorate ~ 3 Years Third Cycle SCD(Master) GraduateStudy 1 - 2 Years LongStudy Programme ~ 5 Years Second Cycle ShortStudy Programme 3 - 4 Years FCD(Bachelor) UndergraduateStudy 3 - 4 Years First Cycle UK, IR, Global Standard Continental Europe

  5. Global Standard SCD level CompatibleMobility Channels FCD level Bachelor UndergraduateStudy Traditional Continental Europe vs Global Standard Research University Applied University Long Degree "Long" engineering program (5 years) Master GraduateStudy Short Degree "Short" engineering program (4 years)

  6. Basics Basics Basics Compatibility problems No added value No defined entry Global Standard SCD level Long Degree "Long" engineering program GraduateStudy Advanced level Forget it ! Short Degree "Short" engineering program FCD level ? UndergraduateStudy ? Back to the Basics ! Deficit Basic level

  7. Implementation of Bologna Declaration in Germany Traditional Programs New EHES Programs Second Cycle DegreeSCD All HEI “ Master “ » 2nd Cycle « 1 - 2 years University “ Dipl.-Ing. ” » Long « 5 years First Cycle DegreeFCD University of Applied Sciences “ Dipl.-Ing. ” » Short « 4 years All HEI “ Bachelor “ » 1st Cycle « 3 - 4 years German Industry welcomes the EHES

  8. New HE Legislation in Germany (since 1998) says: Bachelor's and Master's degree must qualify for the profession (relevance for the labor market)  Program duration Bachelor: 3 - 4 Years Master: 1 - 2 Years Bachelor/Master consecutive: max 5 Years  Bachelor and Master programs must be evaluated through an Accreditation System

  9. Equivalencies Equivalency of traditional and EHES degrees : The traditional Diplom and Magister degrees at University are considered as equivalent to the new Master degree Diplom Univ  Master The traditional Diplom degree at University of Applied Sciences is considered as equivalent to the four years Bachelor honours degree Diplom (FH)  Bachelor (hons)

  10. Research & Development Product Development, Design Engineering, Sales, Marketing Production, Installation, Service Theoretical / Abstract Competence Practical / Concrete Competence Theoretical and practical portions of required competencein industry

  11. Theoretical / AbstractCompetence Ingenieur University(Theory based) Univ. of Appl. Sci.(Application oriented) Practical / Concrete Competence Industry's need is different qualification profiles Basic Research R & D Design Engineering, Marketing Production Installation, Service

  12. Theoretical / AbstractCompetence Employability (Dipl.-Ing. Standard) SCD level FCD level Practical / Concrete Competence Qualification profiles in Bologna programs Basic Research R & D Design Engineering, Marketing Production Installation, Service

  13. Variety of new Programs at German Universities Universities Master level SCD Diplom-Ingenieur Master of Science Master of Engineering Master of Science Master of Engineering Level Bachelor level FCD Bachelor of Science Bachelor of Engineering Profile more theory oriented more application oriented

  14. Depth of Qualification Ingenieur Width of Qualification Industry's recommendation for content in an Engineering Program Thesis (Project) Application Base & Problem SolvingMethodology Industry Placement ~25 % PersonalSkills Scientific Base Technology Base ~15 % ~30 % ~30 %

  15. The more you know ... ... the less you earn ... ... regardless of work ! Many universities focus on delivering deep knowledge.But what is the value of knowledge ? Conclusion POWER = WORK / TIME Physics TIME = MONEY Business Social Science KNOWLEDGE = POWER POWER = WORK / TIME POWER = WORK / MONEY KNOWLEDGE = WORK / MONEY MONEY = WORK / KNOWLEDGE

  16. Depth of Qualification Ingenieur Width of Qualification Industry's recommendation for content in an Engineering Program Thesis (Project) Engineering Application Base & Problem SolvingMethodology Industry Placement ~25 % PersonalSkills Basics Scientific Base Technology Base ~15 % ~30 % ~30 %

  17. Research University Global Standard SCD level Long Degree Engineering Master Engineering Master Engineering Advanced level Basics FCD level Bachelor Engineering Bachelor Engineering Basics Basics Basics Basic level Transition of "Long Education" to two-cycle System Problems Lack of compatibility Not well balanced Integrative approach

  18. Research University Global Standard SCD level Long Degree Engineering Engineering Engineering Basics Basics FCD level Engineering Engineering Basics Basics Basics Transition of "Long Education" to two-cycle System Advanced level Compatible solution Advanced Eng Basic Eng Balanced Programs Basic level Advanced Basics Basic Basics Industry‘s recommendation: New Bachelor Program

  19. Recruiting of Graduates with University Degree (2002) Germany RoEurope Americas Asia / Pacific

  20. FCD ~ 80 % SCD ~ 20 % Recruiting of Graduates with First and Second Cycle Degree Americas Germany Asia RoEurope FCD 85 % FCD 85 % FCD 75 % SCD 60 % FCD 40 % SCD 25 % SCD 15 % SCD 15 %

  21. Bachelor-Studium (100 %) Master-Studium ( 20 %) Berufsausübung mit Master-Abschluß Berufsausübung mit Bachelor-Abschluß ( 80 %) Unmittelbar nach dem Bachelor-Abschluß Absolventen-Jahrgang Voraussichtliches Qualifizierungsverhalten eines Ingenieurjahrganges im eingeschwungenen Bachelor-Master-Ausbildungssystem Berufsbegleitendes Master-Studium (~ 20 %) ( 40 %) ( 60 %) Nach  10 Jahren

  22. Conclusions  Industry welcomes the Bologna process  Industry recommends rapid implementation  FCD programs must lead to employability  Quality improvement and international recognition through accreditation

  23. Ladies and Gentlemen.Thank you for your attention ... End ... questions and discussionare appreciated Dr. Kruno Hernaut

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