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Proposal for PNPAS

Particle and Nuclear Physics Applied Systems Talk at IoP J.Thomas, 9 July. Proposal for PNPAS. The Call. 1 page proposals drawing on PP&N technology for solutions to real world problems in the areas of Energy, Security and Medical idea and application timescale approximate manpower

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Proposal for PNPAS

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  1. Particle and Nuclear Physics Applied Systems Talk at IoP J.Thomas, 9 July Proposal for PNPAS

  2. The Call • 1 page proposals drawing on PP&N technology for solutions to real world problems in the areas of Energy, Security and Medical • idea and application • timescale • approximate manpower • By July 31st!

  3. Which government issue? • Security  • PP expertise holds the key to the bulk of this • PP/Astro detector techniques provide solution • Energy  • Advanced monitoring technologies for nuclear industry, monitoring of supplies • longer term R&D projects essential to far future energy plans (fusion, energy amplifier) • Aging Population  • Medical imaging • Hadron therapy • Climate Change and the Environment • Monitoring atmospheric temperature • Pollution monitoring

  4. STFC : sh/could provide solutionsPPD + NP : a pilot scheme • Accelerators • Lasers • Sensors&detectors • Engineering • Space technology • Computing and Modelling • Materials Science • PPD • Climate Change • Energy • Security • Aging population • Northern Rock (£25B)

  5. PNPAS: The principle • Use (and protect) PPD + NP technical resource within STFC (also TD) • PhD plus 20+ years experience in PP • Directly use our (PP/N) ideas for UK PLC + (short term) benefit to mankind • Obviously very long term benefits of fundamental research are not the issue • Bridging the Death Valley gap • idea->prototype • the bit industry doesn't want to fund • Select a portfolio of projects of differing timescales, scope and risk : this the most important aspect!!

  6. Uni Facilities /personel PPD PNPAS STFC Facilities PNPAS : Use PP model for collaborations TD NP

  7. Academic FTE University Facilities PNPAS Detector gateway facilities PPD/NP FTE TD FTE cut another way

  8. Joined up? • TD : supplies engineering support as per PP collaboration • Detector Gateway Centre : supplies cutting edge detectors via DGC infrastructure • Also possibly produces detector systems for NP, PP, Diamond, Nuclear industry • Use INFN/CAEN as the thought experiment here • Presumably SS-type detectors as well as PP-like • PPD/NP : supplies know how and FTE for higher level systems: industry/government 'pulled'

  9. PPD/NP effort : • This should not be seen as make-work also not bit-work • ~50% FTE per person to work on real projects • from conception, through simulation to prototype • continuity • owning the problem • small groups (including effort and facilities in Universities where appropriate) • Ideal is part-time FTE in order to keep involvement in fundamental research • Funding IS necessary : cost against KE 'budget' • ~40 x50% FTEs = ~6-7 projects • Kit and facility usage (TD,DGC,University Facilities)

  10. The potential outcome • Industry should be involved at the outset • At successful conclusion, licenses can be sold • Indeed! possibly even sold to the highest bidder • R&D costs can be recuperated • Model is NOT to form spin-off companies • STFC has taken the RISK! • Our technical expertise knows what can/cannot work • Industrycanknow what can/cannot sell (not WWW!!) • This DIRECTLY helps UK PLC (but also PLC) • encourages THEM to use our ideas • WILL take some years to be financially sustainable

  11. Benefits • Ameliorate the start-stop nature of PP • An additional funding stream would benefit PP/N • A fresh approach to making the impact of Particle Physics on society very visible • Politicians have lost sight of the spin off from particle physics (if they ever had it) • We have to show how relevant what we do is to their agenda : Security, Energy, Ageing population, Climate Change • Then they will change the agenda of course....

  12. Why bother? This has been tried before... • Well, yes it has! • ThruVision produced a teraherz imager with funding from ESA • Gathered a team of experts to solve the problem • Can you find an aeroplane (on the ground) in the fog? • Now on trial at LHR looking for hidden items on people's bodies • Being used in Canary Wharf and The Dubai Mercantile Exchange • The spin-off company not yet making a profit • £100k/device, maybe 10-20/year sold => £100-200k/year • Multiply by 10 products and you are breaking even From The Sunday Times March 9, 2008 Strip search: camera that sees through clothes from 80ft away Jonathan Leake, Science Editor

  13. Some Problems from MoD • How to see through walls / radio? • How to find a naked man in a cave / water 94Ghz? • How to see differences in a vast landscape/ imaging • How to see a buried roadside device /radio,imaging • Can we see through the ocean / cosmic muons, geoneutrinos? • Can we see neutrinos from a nuclear sub /neutrinos • Can we make invisible camoflage • refractive index/invisibility • Ad-hoc networking / grid middleware? • Bio-inspired autonomous systems / ????

  14. Joined up - not • There seem to be many schemes being put in place • EPSRC+MRC • EPSRC+MOD, STFC(PIPSS)+MOD • ETI, TSB.... • Nuclear Industry! • £100B to be spent in next 5 years on renewables!!! • This isn't well joined up, many trying to solve the same problems • Our approach is to put up the funding and sort out which fund to get reimbursed from at STFC • Try to rationalise or join up with present PP+N related projects

  15. s • Energy: Radiation tolerant fuel cycle monitor systems for nuclear industry • Computing: Monitoring and modelling of energy resources (oil,Uranium,gas...) • Commercial:Power reduction using serial powering, DC-DC, smart control • Security: Tracking system for radiation material and sources • Cross science: Fast detector + daq system(s) for the XFEL project • Medical:accelerator related: (EMMA p/C therapy), B n capture therapy system • Medical: in-vivo dosimetry system, TOF PET system • Security: Muon tomography system for large volume scanning • Technology:Smart CCDs (e.g. high speed cameras; ISIS link) • Cross science: Detector systems for FAIR • Cross science:MAPS for commercial applications (e.g. electron microscope) • Cross science: CdZnTe for x-rays (+Medipix) for EPID (portable imaging system) • Computing:GRID gene + protein database system, Geant simulation of anything • Environmental:Transmutation of Nuclear Waste, Energy amplifier • Environmental:Photon detector systems for pollution monitoring • Biotech: Next generation 2D Imaging system using AP software techniques

  16. Longer term : ENERGY,MEDICAL • Transmutation of nuclear waste • Energy amplifier • neutron multiplication and Tritium recovery • Can see this as possibly additional, long term, ETI funding? • We should get organised : IFMIF long term • Resource modelling • Why is the oil price going up? • Hadron therapy, FFAG based • Already well formed, possible joining up of other funding sources to enhance this • More involvement from PPD/NP staff ??

  17. How to proceed : THE CHALLENGE • define prototype projects • one-two page outlines by 31/07/08 • Type I simulations and study • Type II hardware • August/September for working up projects: • Next steps defining project milestones and goals • Estimate manpower and budget • Maximise use of PPD/NP FTEs/project • Steering Group (10 people from industry,mod,mrc,academia) will define portfolio • Successful delivery of some projects within 2-3 years

  18. Moving Forward • The total funds per year are not yet cast in stone but my hope is that it will be substantial £2M or more • We have to get moving with this (already 2 months behind my own hopes) • The call plus an enthusiastic response will be very helpful : any idea, any size: lets see whats out there • A showcase for the next CSR is the main short-term goal • Real financial independence is the long term goal • this will demonstrate we have succeeded in the vision

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