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EU-US eHealth/Health IT Cooperation Initiative Interoperability of EHR Work Group. November 20, 2013. Meeting Etiquette.
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EU-US eHealth/Health IT Cooperation InitiativeInteroperability of EHR Work Group November 20, 2013
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Meeting Times – NOTE TIME CHANGE NEXT WEEK Interoperability of EHR Work Group meets everyWednesday Washington, DC 10:00am (ET) • NOTE: Due to the Federal U.S. holiday (Thanksgiving Day), we will re-schedule our Thursday, November 28th webinar for Monday, November 25thfrom 10:00am - 11:00am (ET)/3:00pm - 4:00pm (GMT)/4:00pm - 5:00pm (CET)/ 5:00pm - 6:00pm (EET). London 3:00pm/15:00 (GMT) Germany 4:00pm/16:00 (CET) Athens 5:00pm/17:00 (EET)
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Update on Cross Initiative Work… Data Access Framework • The Data Access Framework (DAF) Local Data Access Framework defines the scenarios, requirements, system interactions, and data requirements that will provide a standardized and simplified approach to the integration of data across disparate applications within a single enterprise. While the Health IT systems provide many access paths through their pre-defined interactions between a user and the system, they are limited in their support for data queries, APIs, or services to access data sets as needed. Where Health IT systems provide data access, they likely do not use industry standard access methods. Allowing access to this data can enable a provider to further analyze the collected data to understand a patient’s overall health, the health of a provider’s collective patient population, and use the data to power innovative new applications and tools to take better care of patients and populations. • DAF work is being balloted through the IHE Standards organization • IHE requested S&I reach out to all initiatives involved in data access specifically those international initiatives to encourage members to get involved ensure the standards balloted and ultimately supported by IHE are international in scope
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Use Case Discussion • Today’s discussion: • Outstanding Scoping Comments • Outstanding Assumptions Comments • Pre and Post Conditions including Comments • Data Exchange diagrams and tables • Goals for today: • Reach consensus on outstanding scoping and assumptions comments • Review and update pre and post conditions • Review and update data exchange diagrams & tables
Scoping • Gerard: • Add Spanish • Why Chief Complaint only when a code from SNOMED will provide the translation. Note: This was recommended in previous comments and discussed by the group. • Date/time FORMAT: We must make up our minds whether we make presentation screens interoperable (and face various formats) or resort for interoperability to one ISO format for Time and Date. • Clinical statements can be (must be) made interoperable via SNOMED. Medication using ATC codes. • Procedures need one agreed classification, Which? • Textual data: (=original) as HTML using a style sheet. Note: This was recommended in previous comments and discussed by the group. • Why NOT US->EU Note: US—> EU is in scope. We will update the wiki to reflect this. • Without knowing the system architecture it is unclear we need ‘Break the glass. When we exchange between designated trusted contact points that each handles the request and forwarding there is no use case that breaks the glass. Note: This was recommended in previous comments and discussed by the group.
Scoping • Barry: • We need to consider genomic, DNA, and proteomic information. The VA recognizes and is working on that. The UK explored sampling some time ago. I know many of my own DNA features and stratification. We are rapidly approaching the $1000 genome. Pharmacogenomics and genetic risk markers for cardiovascular diseases, cancers, and immunological markers (transplants, allergies, stop signs for preventing autoimmune disease, etc.) are of particular importance. Our HL7-compliant and particularly CDA Genomic Messaging System GMS and Clinical Messaging System CLaMS describes key issues and applications (no push here; personally I favor another way of implementing it now): http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2004-10-11-a.html http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/pr0341336?journalCode=jprobs http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7158892.html • In scope and out of scope here is a matter of specification level. Data mapping and ontology is a matter of special specification. General specification must however provide the format and framework that represents the definition of exchange artifacts into which specific data mapping and ontology solutions can be slotted. This implies defining an attribute metadata language or field metadata language, or both. In effect, we are approaching the time for considering not just what artifacts should carry, but how. Lack of theoretical consideration of scope and power for all that might be needed can cause future problems.
Assumptions • The ability to comply with legal and regulatory regimes of the EU and US • All content in the original languages will be transmitted along with any translation • Standards within the EU will be the same as standards between the EU and US • Translation will be done by the receiving system and may also be done by the sending system • Responsibility for translation is with the entity that receives the translation • Sending and receiving systems comply with mutually agreed upon specifications • Gerard: • This is a tough case because of US privacy and patriot regulations that does not fit the European privacy and political opinions. • Who is accountable for the translation? Sender or receiver? I prefer the latter. • Barry: • If we go this route you will need to design an international registration system for it, and carry “Registered (number) in (country)” style information in attributes or fields or artifacts. And if you want to enforce its use intrinsically, you will need digital certificates to do it. • Note: we will re-visit this when we discuss data elements
Pre and Post Conditions: Patient Mediated • Pre-conditions: • Patient controlled application is able to send the patient summary • Provider EHR is able to receive the patient summary • The National Control Point is able to? • Post-conditions: • The patient controlled application has sent the patient summary • The National Control Point has? • The provider EHR has received the patient summary and stored the data
Pre and Post Conditions: Patient Mediated Question: Should the following items all be listed as pre and post conditions? Are there any conditions that should also be included? What should be the pre and post-conditions related to the National Control Point? • Gerard: In Europe designated National Contact Points set up a secure and trusted channel inside their jurisdiction and with other contact points. What is meant by “provider id able to receive” We can make NO assumptions on the receiving user system. We can make them only for the systems the National Contact Points use. • Barry: Yes, yes, and gosh. That’s all a big architecture issue, and like Fermat’s last theorem, the solution is too big to fit into this margin. We need to consider direct transact and NCP-mediated transact. I don’t want to die because a server goes down. And think of the NCP like a stock-broker who can only automatically transact client stocks and shares in the manner and under the conditions as prescribed but changeable instructions by the client.
Pre and Post Conditions: Patient Facilitated • Pre-conditions: • Provider 1 EHR is able to receive and process the patient request to send the patient summary • Provider 1 EHR is able to send a patient summary • The National Control Point is able to? • Provider 2 EHR is able to receive a patient summary • Provider 2 EHR is able to send a patient summary • The National Control Point is able to? • Provider 1 EHR is able to receive a patient summary • Post-conditions: • Provider 1 EHR has processed the patient request • Provider 1 EHR has sent the patient summary to Provider 2 EHR • The National Control Point has? • Provider 2 EHR has received the patient summary from Provider 1 and stored the data • Provider 2 EHR has sent the patient summary to Provider 1 EHR • The National Control Point has? • Provider 1 EHR has received the patient summary from Provider 2 and stored the data
Pre and Post Conditions: Patient Facilitated Question: Should the following items all be listed as pre and post conditions? Are there any conditions that should also be included? What should be the pre and post-conditions related to the National Control Point? • Barry: As above, but note that it needs a powerful language to express all options, wishes of the patient, wishes of payers, wishers or providers, compliance and law, and so on which we need to consider carefully in that context. The formalism is for example IF (condition 1) AND (((condition 2) OR (condition 3)) and…) THEN (action 1, action 2, action 3,..). Then we need to see that the conditions can be supplied and have a recognized state code, and that actions have complete, pending, exception, blocked, awaiting etc. state codes. That cannot be all worked out by Monday!
Pre and Post Conditions: Provider to Provider • Pre-conditions: • Provider 1 EHR is able to receive and process a request from Provider 2 to send the patient summary • Provider 1 EHR is able to verify consent • Provider 1 EHR is able to send a patient summary • The National Control Point is able to? • Provider 2 EHR is able to receive a patient summary • Provider 2 EHR is able to send a patient summary • The National Control Point is able to? • Provider 1 EHR is able to receive a patient summary • Post-conditions: • Provider 1 EHR has processed the request from Provider 2 EHR • Provider 1 EHR has sent the patient summary to Provider 2 EHR • The National Control Point has? • Provider 2 EHR has received the patient summary from Provider 1 and stored the data • Provider 2 EHR has sent the patient summary to Provider 1 EHR • The National Control Point has? • Provider 1 EHR has received the patient summary from Provider 2 and stored the data
Pre and Post Conditions: Provider to Provider Question: Should the following items all be listed as pre and post conditions? Are there any conditions that should also be included? What should be the pre and post-conditions related to the National Control Point? • Barry: same comments as previous
Data Exchange Diagrams & Tables: Patient Mediated Question: Does this diagram accurately represent the Patient Mediated exchange? At what points does translation occur? • Barry: A detailed breakdown of these excellent starts is too a big a task to be undertaken on any weekend, but two general points may be noted. If translations in multiple approved languages (including perhaps an unambiguous artificial pivot language ) are generated at source, then the NCP is an excellent opportunity to take on the role of validating the mutual compatibility and consistency and perhaps even necessary completeness or sufficiency, notifying the sender in event of irreconcilable problems. This could progressively extend to a sophisticated NCP “Guardian Angel” function, where there are expected scenario and case study descriptions , and means of detecting departure from them. For natural language text but also quite in general, the NCP could also be the main repository for the WANT-EXPECT-GET functionality. In this managerial WEG model base on neuroscience, each node in a network receives a WANT instruction, notes and feeds back what you actually GET from its action, learns and/or is told what to EXPECT, and seeks to reduce the WEG triangle, i.e. bring information in all three channels into convergence.
Data Exchange Diagrams & Tables: Patient Facilitated Question: Does this diagram accurately represent the Patient Mediated exchange? At what points does translation occur? • Barry: same comments as previous
Data Exchange Diagrams & Tables: Provider to Provider Question: Does this diagram accurately represent the Patient Mediated exchange? At what points does translation occur? • Barry: same comments as previous
Next Steps • Prepare for our next meeting • Continue submitting your bios • NOTE: Interoperability of EHR Work Group will meet next Monday November 25thfrom 10:00am - 11:00am (ET)/4:00pm - 5:00 pm (CEST)
Interoperability Support Leads • US Point of Contacts • Mera Choi: Mera.Choi@hhs.gov • Jamie Parker: jamie.parker@esacinc.com • Gayathri Jayawardena, gayathri.jayawardena@esacinc.com • Amanda Merrill, amanda.merrill@accenturefederal.com • Emily Mitchell, emily.d.mitchell@accenturefederal.com • Mark Roche, mrochemd@gmail.com • Virginia Riehl, virginia.riehl@verizon.net • EU Point of Contacts • Benoit Abeloos, Benoit.ABELOOS@ec.europa.eu • Frank Cunningham, frank.cunningham@ec.europa.eu • Catherine Chronaki, chronaki@gmail.com
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