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1. International Dual-Degree Programs: Structural Models & Considerations

   Lesley Davis Assistant Dean for International Programs Indiana University Maurer School of Law
2. Maurer Programs Semester Exchange: Paris II Bucerius ESADE Warsaw Auckland University of Hong Kong Peking U. School of Transnational Law Zhejiang University CUPL FGV Rio & Sao Paulo Jindal Global Law School Dual Degree: JD-LLB (Jindal) LLM-Cert (Oxford Internet Inst.) JD-MBA (SKKU) JD/LLM/PhD-LLM (Korean partners) Summer: Externship program in India, Brazil, Korea, China USD summer institute programs
3. From THE FACULTY LOUNGE, Dan Filler April 01, 2012 Stanford To Establish Law Campus On Roosevelt Island As many of you know, in December, Stanford University pulled out of the competition to develop a new research campus on New York City's Roosevelt Island. A consortium between Cornell University and Israel's Technion won the day. But it turns out there was more to that story than met the eye. Tomorrow, Stanford is set to announce that it will open a new law school campus on Roosevelt Island.  The school's plan is to build a 280,000 foot law school that will house approximately 450 JD students and another 200 international graduate law students.  In addition, Stanford will also offer an L.L.B. program which will allow many European students to move directly into practice in their home countries.   While this plan has been developed in secrecy, it also explains why Stanford was so quick to exit the earlier competition for a place on Roosevelt Island.  The law school will cost literally billions less to build than the research center.  And it also turns out that the three universities will achieve an economy of scale, developing a single student center, and athletic complex on the island.  The law school is apparently part of a broader plan to expand Stanford's footprint into Europe, Africa, the Middle East and, ultimately, Palau.
4. Structural Considerations Exchange or one-way Extent of credit sharing Bar eligibility ABA issues Costs and financial aid School-specific considerations
5. Exchange or one-way If exchanging students, is there a financial or other need to maintain strict parity, and are there sufficient students from each side to do so? Are you exchanging, sending or receiving students from comparable degree programs or different degree levels (e.g., JD for LLM)? If one-way, is there sufficient mutual benefit to sustain the program (e.g., financial, credit, credential)?
6. Extent of Credit Sharing Is there a limited number of credits each side can or is willing to count towards its own degree? Why should we care whether the foreign partner can count credits from our degree? May any home degree required credits be fulfilled abroad? Will the dual degree require additional time?
7. Bar Eligibility Will the program render US students eligible to sit for the foreign bar and/or practice in the foreign jurisdiction? How important is this? Will foreign participants be eligible to sit for any US bars? Future of bar eligibility in states that don’t currently have rules about foreign legal education.
8. ABA Issues No more than 1/3 of JD degree may be earned abroad LLM degree model rules/NY rules (number of credits, no online courses, two full semesters, no credit for courses done abroad) LSAT requirement vs. reporting requirement 700 minutes Etc…
9. Costs & Financial Aid Which school will students pay for the semester(s) abroad? Will the total cost for the dual degree be greater than, less than or equal to the cost of the single degree? To what extent will scholarships or federal financial aid travel with the student? Will the host school offer any special scholarship funding for program participants? Will the university recognize the tuition “wash” when equal numbers are exchanged?
10. School-Specific Considerations Are we “giving away” too much in terms of credits (e.g., in a 2+2 program)? Will participants be able to get a degree for less money than other students/home country students? How much control do home school educational policy committees want to exert over foreign curriculum (either course offerings or credit counting)?
11. School-Specific Considerations Does the home university have policies on offshore or cross-border programs that need to be followed? Does the home university have study abroad policies that affect the proposed international dual-degree? Does the faculty support the program or the presence of the incoming exchange students?
12. US JDforeignLLMforeign LLMUS LLM Example: Vermont Law School’s JD-Master 1/Master 2 with Cergy-Pontoise Two-way exchange, but different degrees (incoming students are Master’s students and complete LLM, not JD). One year of credit counted toward JD for M1. One additional year required for M2. French students do not receive credit toward home degree for LLM. Outgoing students may fulfill eligibility requirements for French bar; incoming students eligible for NY, DC, etc. bars after LLM. Students do not pay any more for both degrees than they would pay for JD or M1/M2.
13. Foreign JDUS LLM Example:Sunkyunkwan University JD/LLM/PhD with “mid-stream” Maurer LLM One-way (incoming) NYB cannot count credits not taken in US toward LLM so no sharing even with English SKKU credits. SKKU students cannot count full 24 cr. toward JD (Ministry of Ed rule). Does not prolong Korean JD. Eligible for NY bar after completion of both degrees (if no degree in law yet) We offer ~20% tuition discount (“partner” rate)
14. US JD  foreign LLBforeign LLB  US JD Example: Maurer and Jindal Global Law School JD- LLB Equal exchange at same degree level (post-bachelor’s)—US JD & Indian LLB or BA/LLB. 2 + 2 degree (home degree relies on completion of foreign degree); financial aid applies. Tuition paid to school of enrollment. Indian students eligible for any US bar US students not eligible for Indian bar (Indian legal services market still closed)
15. US LLM  foreign certificate Example: Maurer LLM (IP/Cybersecurity)/Oxford Internet Institute Certificate Joint program resulting in two credentials (one degree and one certificate) Each institution counting one semester of work from the other Maurer semester tuition rate paid to each institution US federal aid can apply to Oxford semester for US citizens No NY bar eligibility because LLM not two semesters in US
16. US JD  foreign MBA Example: Maurer JD-SKKU MBA Exchange; 3 years total (IU students spend 2nd year at SKKU) One year of credit counted by each program Tuition paid to host school Challenges on incoming side SKKU students eligible for any US bar
17. Expanding Opportunities What else can you do with your existing partners? (e.g., Paris II exchange  LLM; JGU assistance with summer externships) What opportunities are possible through existing university partners (e.g., Warsaw U. exchange; ZJU partnership)? Can you take advantage of calendar differences (e.g., southern hemisphere/later spring semester)?