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EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation. EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation. participants. discussion. what was benefits from EGOWS?. sharing of ideas. Kees: works very well get new ideas John: lot of differences a couple of years ago less diff. later sharing of ideas works. ideas.

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EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

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  1. EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

  2. EGOWS 2007-working group Co-operation

  3. participants

  4. discussion

  5. what was benefits from EGOWS?

  6. sharing of ideas • Kees: works very well • get new ideas • John: lot of differences a couple of years ago • less diff. later • sharing of ideas works

  7. ideas

  8. website www.knmi.nl/samenw/egows • how to organize EGOWS • add a forum ? • add a Wiki? • Heleen and Kees would like to do • ask the KNMI management for being allowed to • add a Photobook

  9. see communication • (ECMWF as moderator for between meetings communication) • ?

  10. problems for cooperation

  11. why is it difficult to cooperate? • cooperation on little scale possible • in between: difficult • risk of cutting resources • reliability on SW developed in other service without contract basis? • other extreme: official internationl cooperation (contract based) • at that stage the project/coop is safe • technical problems (formats,standards)

  12. communication • not much communication between the conferences

  13. not much communication between the conferences • sometimes you ask by email and get answers (like Marie did for XMLobjects) • communication between the conferences • would need a moderator • ECMWF ? • needs resources for this • more meetings? • Internet communication to improve?

  14. language • English might be a problem • people can improve

  15. resources • you need more resources (critical mass) for starting a cooperation • but: later you will save resources • AND: you will get the much better product by using the ideas of all participants of a cooperation

  16. Does it make sense to have only 1 system? • maybe not • failover? • in case one system fails, they could go NinJo or somewhere else • need some concurrency to improve systems • more creative • open mind for world wide thinking

  17. sorts of coooperation

  18. develop open libraries (DB/..) • share maintenance • can you rely on a tool/db on voluntary base • need to rely on maintenance • need contracts or something • on own risc • formal cooperation • needs more

  19. why cooperation?

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