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Joint Academia/Industry/Government Panel Discussion

Joint Academia/Industry/Government Panel Discussion. “Current and Future Trends in Jobs for Veterinary Pathologists” Co-Chairs : Drs. Jon Werner (Amgen) and Kevin Lahmers (Washington St. Univ ) Panelists:

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Joint Academia/Industry/Government Panel Discussion

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  1. Joint Academia/Industry/Government Panel Discussion “Current and Future Trends in Jobs for Veterinary Pathologists” Co-Chairs: Drs. Jon Werner (Amgen) and Kevin Lahmers (Washington St. Univ) Panelists: Drs. Chris Clarke (Amgen), John Cullen (NC St Univ), Kevin Keane (Consultant), Kevin Lahmers, Charles Wood (EPA), and Aaron Sargeant (CRL)

  2. Agenda • Introduction (5 min) • Brief statements from panelists (20 min) • Please hold questions • Open discussion (35 min) • Before talking, please ID yourself • Continued discussion over cocktails

  3. Introduction Paraphrased opinion from Terry Leyden from the Leyden Group, a private recruiting firm in toxicology for over 30 years, and supporter of the ACVP/STP coalition: • Through 2008, there was a healthy job market for early career pathologists. • Since that time, this market has virtually disappeared due to: • Large and mid sized pharma reducing staff and small biotech lacking funding. • CROs having work volume drop, and sufficient staffing. • Experienced pathologists leaving industry and offering consulting services. • However, there will be a large number of experienced pathologists retiring soon - "brain drain". Companies should consider succession planning. 3

  4. Hiring in Academia Dr. John Cullen, NC State NCSU Davis/Penn • Hiring level • empty positions filled • No new positions created • Qualifications • PhD generally required • High level of competition • Lots of good diagnosticians available • Desirables • Research training/program • High level of competition • Vet Schools contracting slightly due to state funding issues • Some new positions available, but… • Need to have the right niche • Specialized diagnostic skills • Research program • Tox path depends on regional support

  5. Searching in AcademiaDr. Kevin Lahmers, Washington State • In the past year, there has been a significant uptick in jobs posted • There are a lot of people looking • Do things to help yourself stand out • Boards • PhD • Teaching experience • Specialize-to an extent • It is currently largely about fit in the current buyer’s market

  6. Hiring in industry Dr. Chris Clarke, Amgen • Qualifications – DVM, DACVP, PhD….. • DABT, MD • Experience – drug discovery and development • Discovery science – peer engagement • Tox Path – characterization, interpretation, risk assessment • Drug development projects • Technology-savvy, integrate data • Pharma CRO  academia • Management/leadership • Behaviors • Team player • “Leadership” • Problem solver, critical thinker • Proactive • Communication skills • Inquisitive • Adaptive

  7. Searching in IndustryDr. Aaron Sargeant, CRL • Flexibility • Team player with broad skills and interests • How are these influences changing pathology? - genomics, paraprofessionals, automated slide reading, 3R’s, offshoring, …

  8. Hiring in governmentDr. Charles Wood, US EPA • Widespread tightening of science/R&D budgets across federal agencies • Pressure on basic science and bench pathology roles • More emphasis on translational scientist and advisor roles • Traditional pathology skills important, bridge skills critical • Examples: Toxicology, Molecular biology/Biomarkers, Computational biology/Informatics

  9. Consulting: Various roles & skillsDr. Kevin Keane • PharmaTox. Pathology: In-depth Tox Path knowledge of a drug class or target • GLP Lab Animal Veterinarian: Team effort to have animals & facility for tox studies • Drug Program Leader: Team effort to move a novel compound to clinical trials • CRO Pathology: In-depth Tox Path knowledge of spontaneous vs. test article findings • International: Understanding how to work & teach in China & India • Society of Tox Path: Source of continuous learning and consortium building

  10. “Biomarker” of Industry Health:Net Income (losses) in NonClinical Development ($M)

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