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Personal Insolvency Practitioner. Presented by Tom Murray, Friel Stafford. 16 May 2013. The New Act – A PIP’s perspective. I cannot give a PIP’s perspective as no PIP’s authorised as of yet!!! (at least not accountants...)
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Personal Insolvency Practitioner Presented by Tom Murray, Friel Stafford 16 May 2013
The New Act – A PIP’s perspective • I cannot give a PIP’s perspective as no PIP’s authorised as of yet!!! (at least not accountants...) • But I hope to share some of my experiences as someone who is becoming a PIP • Whole new environment – legislatively, market place, practice structure • Lot of unknowns – interpretations of regulations, schemes, attitudes of creditors etc. • Have to work with legislation – may privately not agree with some or parts – but it is what it is.
Practical Issues • Commercial Decision - Is it worth my while? Size of Market? Costs Associated? • Qualify as PIP • Resourcing your practice • Up skilling your staff
PERSONAL INSOLVENCY PRACTITIONERS • Size of market: 10,000 to 40,000 potential cases? • Lifetime of market: Bulk will be dealt with over next 5 years • Multi-banked individuals would be best candidates for Personal Insolvency Arrangements • Competition: • Solicitors and consortia involving solicitors? • At least three UK “specialist” firms will enter the market place • Accountants • Mediators? • Mortgage Brokers? • Some of the 5,000 redundant bankers? • Fee Levels? Will be very competitive = streamlined procedures necessary
The Role of the PIPs An individual may make an application to carry on practice as a PIP if that individual: • is a solicitor • is a barrister at law called to the Bar of Ireland; • is a qualified accountant and a member of a prescribed accountancy body • is a qualified financial advisor • holds a qualification in law, business, finance or other appropriate similar qualification to the satisfaction of the Insolvency Service recognised to at least level 7 of the National Qualifications Framework by Quality and Qualifications Ireland (or equivalent)
The Role of the PIPs The individual also needs to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the Insolvency Service • that he or she has relevant knowledge and experience of and has completed a course of study and passed an examination on the law and practice generally as it applies in the State relating to the insolvency of individuals; and the Act. • has adequate organisational capability and resources to carry on the practice of a PIP under the Act; • holds, or will hold before commencing to carry on practice as a PIP, a policy of professional indemnity insurance. • has submitted a completed application, together with supporting information, documentation and mandates as the Insolvency Service has requested; and • is tax compliant.
Skills Sets Required • Understanding of relevant legislation • Understanding of taxes: IT, VAT, CGT & CAT • Understanding of offer letters, facility letters, guarantees, issues such as reckless lending • Counselling skills • Experience of share valuations • Negotiation skills/Mediation Skills • Persuasion skills • Understanding of how debt collection procedures by creditors work • Understanding of property valuations etc. • If dealing with “consumer” type cases, knowledge of Social Welfare (Family Income Supplements, Mortgage Interest Subsidy etc) • Understanding of the benefits of “bankruptcy” tourism
Can we learn from UK colleagues • UK much more mature market • When initially introduced – licenses were grandfathered in (Not being done here!!!) • Initially attracted sole traders / business people (1980’s) / early 1990’s). Market then moved to a growth in consumer debt in 1990’s • UK regulations experienced significant number of Court challenges to clarify law(I expect same….). This has dramatically reduced as market matured. • UK has from off been highly regulated ( we will be also….) • Centralised Voting in UK • Establishment of “Protocol’s”
Can we learn from UK colleagues • This lead to • many practitioners losing licences due to non-compliance (I expect same….) • many practitioners ‘dipped toes’ –and then walking away - compliance and fees key reasons(Suspect same here)
Staffing Levels Required? • Volume v/s specialised? (Volume requires knowledge of social welfare benefits) • If Volume, then the UK experience provides a guideline on staffing levels. However, bear in mind that the Irish legislation is much more cumbersome! An efficient UK firm, which handles approximately 100 IVA’s a month, has the following staffing structure: • 4 appointment takers (i.e. licensed IPs) • Pre-Appointment staff 12 • Cashiers/Finance 4 • Post appointment staff 20
Software Packages Available • Banks will insist on regular distributions = need for good software packages. • “Volume” firms will need a document imaging system • What will be available in the Irish market place? • At least 3 companies have offerings for PIPs: • www.pipx.ie • www.insolv.co.uk • www.documatics.ie • (PS: I would suggest that the package you select can “talk” with the IT systems of the Insolvency Service) • Given the volume of documentation generated, significant cost savings can be had by having a “Creditors Portal” on your web site so that creditors can down load documentation • “Volume” firms may need a document imaging system • “Volume” firms may need a document imaging system
Role of the Personal Insolvency Practitioner • Section 52 of the Act states that on completion of the Prescribed Financial Statement the PIP shall advise the debtor of the following: • Options for addressing financial difficulties • Debtor’s eligibility to make a proposal for a DSA or PIA • The PIP’s opinion as to whether it would be more appropriate for the debtor to enter into a PIA or DSA • Section 52 does not contain a full list of what other “options” might exist for addressing financial difficulties. It does list the following options; • Direct negotiations with a creditor • Becoming a specified debtor as respects a Debt Relief Notice • Bankruptcy • The PIP shall confirm his advice in writing to the debtor
REASONS WHY A BORROWER MAY GO BANKRUPT • To enable spouse to buy 50% share of family home now at a relatively low valuation • To protect inheritances • To protect pension funds • To protect future earnings • Not effected by reasonable standards of living (low level salaried people etc.
70 DAY PROTECTIVE PERIOD = TIGHT TIME SCALES!!! • Time for the Insolvency Service to advise the PIP of the issuance of the Protective Certificate? Allow 2 days. • “Excludable” creditors have 21 days (from date of receipt of notification) to decide if they will be treated as unsecured creditors or not. • Delays in agreeing the valuation of secured properties. Allow 21 days (minimum!) However, this time should run concurrently with the excludable creditors. • 14 days notice has to be given for the creditors meeting. (Will this be sufficient for Credit Committees?) • Allow 1 day for PIP to notify the Insolvency Service of the outcome of the creditors meeting. • = PIP has 33 days to formulate a PIA. • In practice, the responsible PIP would have “stress tested” the scheme with the major creditors beforehand. • Watch out for creditors seeking to enforce judgements! (= seeking protection faster)
Ethical Issues • Accountancy bodies guidelines • ISI Section 161 Regulations: • Must be independent • PIP shall seek to avoid conflicts of interest • Where conflicts arise, PIP shall have a written policy • A PIP shall make a conflicts of interest assessment in respect of a debtor AND in respect of the debtor’s creditors • A PIP and his staff shall ensure that his practice does not offer, give, solicit any gifts or rewards which conflict with any functions of the PIP • Acting for existing clients may be a conflict of interest.
Ethical Issues • Acting for Husband & Wife? May be OK if they have the same assets and liabilities profile and the same objectives. (Similar issues in acting for business partners) • Can firms be on Receivership Panels of banks and then act as PIP’s seeking debt write downs? No conflict, but banks may not see it that way!
Case Management Issues - Bank accounts • PIP must open separate a Bank account for each debtor in a bank authorised to carry on business in the State. Bank must be notified that the account is not an asset of the PIP • All such accounts shall be designated as either a ‘DSA’ account or a ‘PIA’ account . Eg, a DSA account for a debtor with the name of John Murphy, and with the PIP as Tom Murray, will be opened up as: • John Murphy DSA, Tom Murray PIP • A PIP must maintain proper records and accounts • PIP must conduct regular reconciliations • PIP must notify the ISI within one business day of material or recurrent differences arising from reconciliations • Opening a bank account – could take 2 weeks...
VALIDITY OF MEETINGS AND QUORUMS • No Regulations set yet (but will allow emails and conference calls) • In practice, there can be heavy disputes about notice periods, validity of proxies etc. • For example, if a bank which is owed €1m fails to submit a valid proxy opposing a PIA, it may be bound into the PIA by smaller creditors • The PIA should include personal guarantees etc
OTHER POTENTIAL PITFALLS WITH NEW LEGISLATION • A “connected person” • Is a relative (sibling, parent, child, spouse or civil partner) • Has a trustee relationship • Is in partnership • Has control of it • May not Vote!!! – Open to challenge!!!
Who sues for negligence? • The UK experience is that Creditors do not sue the “PIP”, but debtors do! • Accordingly, boiler plated engagement letter is vital.
OTHER POTENTIAL PITFALLS WITH NEW LEGISLATION) • Bankers’ effective veto = not really suitable for clients who are just with one bank = new legislation will not be extensively used • €3m limit on liabilities (unless all secured creditors agree to abandon limit. Secured creditors include judgment mortgages) • Identifying all creditors in a PIA (especially personal guarantees to leasing companies, landlords, bondsmen etc) If contingent creditors are not wrapped into the PIA, then they will not be bound by it • Valuations of secured assets • Untested at present. Interpretations to be made by High Court.
OTHER POTENTIAL PITFALLS WITH NEW LEGISLATION • Section 102(7) states that a judgment mortgage obtained more than 3 months before issuance of a protective certificate is a “secured creditor”. Yet section 2 suggests a secured debt is only secured to the value of the underlying security • Connected creditors cannot vote in favour of an arrangement. So a partner who is liable for, say, €10m of a partner’s debt cannot vote in respect of the partner’s scheme. Cannot vote in respect of liabilities arising from Joint & Several Guarantees. Constitutional issues? • The Act says that monies due to management companies from are “excludable” debts. However, you could argue that they are actually secured debts
OTHER POTENTIAL PITFALLS WITH NEW LEGISLATION • Uncertainty over Joint & Several Guarantees, given the provisions of Section 17 of the Civil Liability Act of 1961. Example; Mr A has assets of €5m. Mr B has assets of €1m. They have given a J & S guarantee to ACC. If ACC vote in a favour of a PIA for Mr. B under which they would get €1m from Mr. B, are they restricted to only recovering €1m from Mr. A?
How will the banks react to the new legislation? • The banks are organising themselves through the Irish Banking Federation • Expect protocols to be set by the banks i.e. standard clauses to be incorporated into DSA’s and PIA’s etc • Expect caps on fees • Given the banks’ effective veto, they will try and engage directly with borrowers and avoid paying fees to Personal Insolvency Practitioners i.e. they will negotiate their own deals • Remains to be seen if the banks establish a “central voting company” similar to TDX in the UK. Such a company could represent the interests of all banks at creditors meetings held up and down the country and effectively have an absolute veto on proposals
Will the new regime work? • Ultimately - Yes • Will evolve • Market will consolidate • Banks will buy in (in time…)
Will the new regime work? The 4 Pillars of Debt Resolution • Effective legislation • Effective Practitioners • Effective Courts • Culture CONCLUSION • The banks’ attitude towards debt forgiveness will have to change for the new regime to work. • Banks need to set “tight but attainable” targets for borrowers so that they are motivated, and not crushed
THANK YOU Tom Murray Friel Stafford 44 Fitzwilliam Place Dublin 2 tom.murray@frielstafford.ie www.frielstafford.ie Tel: 01 661 4066 in association with FRP Advisory