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G4NAMU at AAPM Seattle 2005. Joseph Perl, SLAC. Agenda. 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) Why, what and how G4NAMU G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration
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G4NAMU at AAPM Seattle 2005 Joseph Perl, SLAC G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Thanks • Thanks to AAPM for letting us arrange this side meeting on such short notice • Thanks to University of Pennsylvania (Stephen Avery)for covering the cost of our meeting room today • Today’s agenda was worked out by an ad-hoc subcommittee:Stephen Avery, Paul Gueye, Harald Paganetti, Joseph Perl G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Self-Introductions • So we can all begin to associate names with faces, please tell us: • Name • Affiliation • Topic Area (beam therapy, brachytherapy, imaging, etc.) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
What is G4NAMU? G4NAMU – the Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization Launched in May of 2005 to provide a meeting place for the rapidly growing Geant4 medical user community of North America. Up to now, we’ve just said the purpose of G4NAMU is to bring this community together to share issues and advice, to develop regional collaboration and to communicate as a group to the Geant4 developers. Part of our goal for our discussions today is to extend or refine this statement of purpose. G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Who is G4NAMU? • G4NAMU's current membership includes 44 members from 20 institutions throughout Canada and the United States. • Current subscribers to the mailing list (page 1 of 2): • SLAC: Joseph Perl, Makoto Asai • Harvard & Mass General: Harald Paganetti, Xing-Qi Lu , Roelf L. Slopsema • UCSF: Bruce Faddegon • ULaval: Jean-François Carrier, Luc Beaulieu, Louis Archambault, Vincent Hubert Tremblay • UPenn: Steven Avery , Dickson Goulart, Jim McDonough • Stanford: Todd Pawlicki, Gary Luxton, Lei Xing • Louisiana State University: Blair Smith • Fox Chase: Charlie Ma, Jiajin Fan • McGill: Emily Poon, Frank Verhaegen, Jan Seuntjens • Continued on next slide… G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Who is G4NAMU? (continued) • Current subscribers to the mailing list (continued): • Triumf: Peter Gumplinger, Frederick Jones • Memorial Sloan-Kettering: C. Ross Schmidtlein, Assen Kirov, Sadek Nehmeh • Johns Hopkins: Jingyan Xu • University of Arkansas: Hongyu Jiang • Jefferson Lab: Paul Gueye, Stan Majewski, Mark Smith, David Hamlette,Michael Epps, Marion MacCormic • Advanced Laser Light Source: Jean-Claude Kieffer, Jean-Philippe Moreau • University of Wisconsin – Madison: Hazim A Jaradat • INRS: Francois Vidal, Sylvain Fourmaux, Ludovic Lecherbourg, Rémy Toth • Université de Sherbrooke: Daniel Houde • University of Alberta: Robert Fedosejev, Craig Unick • United States Army Medical Department: Dan Fry G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Actually, we can arrange to have a few G4NAMU slides included here G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • Of course all Geant4 users are part of a world wide community. • Medical Applications forum and other user forums are available for discussion and exchange, as well as other Geant4 workshops and meetings. • But regional efforts also have a role. • In Europe, some efforts are being organized through Maria Grazia Pia of INFN, Italy (beam, brachy, GATE) • In Japan, some efforts are being organized through Takashi Sasaki of KEK (including carbon beams, parallel computing) • In North America, there has been no similar effort at regional organization • See, for example, the list of speakersfor an upcoming Geant4 Symposiumat Villa Olmo G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
G4NAMU as Regional Voice • G4NAMU can serve as voice of the North American Geant4 Medical User community • Organize regional workshops or tutorials • Foster nearby collaborations • Speak with a collective voice to regional funding agencies • Meet regional certification needs • At its meeting last month in San Diego, the American Nuclear Society (ANS) recognized the formation of a Computational Medical Physics Working Group (CMPWG). CMPWG will be hosted by three divisions of ANS - Mathematics and Computations (M&C), Biology and Medicine (BMD), Radiation Protection and Shielding (RPSD). • CMPWG may become involved in benchmarking codes for Medical Physics applications. G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
How Should G4NAMU Work? • We've agreed to use a mailing list. • geant4-namu@slac.stanford.edu • The list is lightly moderated just to maintain focus and prevent spam. • To join the list, send mail to perl@slac.stanford.edu. • We will have periodic meetings and will try, as we have today, to take advantage of existing meetings. • We can go beyond this: • Provide workshops or tutorials • Develop additional Geant4 examples • Certify certain parts of the code for use in our communities • Collect requirements for Geant4 developers • We’ll start discussing these functions of G4NAMU here today. G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Where Does SLAC Fit into G4NAMU • Three of us are from the SLAC Geant4 group (Asai, Wright, Perl) • Largest center of Geant4 development outside of CERN • Expertise in essentially all areas of Geant4 • Three seats on the Geant4 technical steering board • Our laboratory and university strongly support our involvement with the medical physics community • From SLAC, we’ve set up the mailing list, and we’ve started an initial G4NAMU web site: • http://geant4.slac.stanford.edu/g4namu/ • Extremely boring page at present. Content welcome! • I would be happy to serve as maintainer of a formal G4NAMU requirements list that would give input to the Geant4 developers • While the SLAC group are happy to contribute in this way,we understand that we are just one member of this new community. G4NAMU must be a consensus organization that evolves as needed by its members. G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
General Discussion • What do you want G4NAMU to do? • How shall we organize ourselves? • Some milestones to keep in mind: • October 20: Villa Olmo Conference, Como, Italy,“Astroparticle, Particle, Space Physics, Detectors and Medical Physics Applications”, Geant4 Symposium • http://villaolmo.mib.infn.it/Conference2005.html • We could provide a few slides for the Geant4 Medical talk. • October 23-29: IEEE NIS-MIC, San Juan, Puerto Rico • http://www.nss-mic.org/2005/nss2005.html • Should we organize a G4NAMU side meeting? • November 3-10: Geant4 International Conference, Bordeaux, France, • http://geant4.in2p3.fr/2005/ • Agenda is still open. A G4NAMU talk would be appropriate. G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Break-out Sessions • Separate areas of the room for discussion of three main topic areas • External Beam Therapy – See Harald • Brachytherapy – See Paul • Imaging – See Assen • Meet one another • Enjoy some snacks • Collect thoughts on current hot topics and on requirements G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Agenda • 1. Welcome and self-introductions - everyone (15 mins) • 2. Geant4 North America Medical Users Organization: Joseph Perl (10 mins) • Why, what and how G4NAMU • G4NAMU within the World Geant4 Collaboration • 3. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in External Beam Therapy: Harald Paganetti (10 mins) • 4. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Brachytherapy: Paul Gueye (10 mins) • 5. Overview of Geant4 Use and Issues in Imaging (CT/PET/SPECT/GATE/other): Assen Kirov (10 mins) • 6. General Discussion (30 mins) • 7. Socializing and informal discussions - (40 mins) • Break-out sessions along topics 3, 4 and 5 above • 8. Summary (20 mins) • Informal reports from the break-out sessions • 9. Next Steps - Joseph Perl (5 mins) G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl
Some Next Steps • Invite colleagues to the mailing list. • Continue discussion on the mailing list. • Develop the G4NAMU web site. • Collect requirements for Geant4 developers. • Think about relationship to ANS Computational Medical Physics Working Group (CMPWG). • Think about submissions or side meetings for: • October 20: Villa Olmo Conference, Como, Italy,“Astroparticle, Particle, Space Physics, Detectors and Medical Physics Applications”, Geant4 Symposium • http://villaolmo.mib.infn.it/Conference2005.html • October 23-29: IEEE NIS-MIC, San Juan, Puerto Rico • http://www.nss-mic.org/2005/nss2005.html • November 3-10: Geant4 International Conference, Bordeaux, France, • http://geant4.in2p3.fr/2005/ G4NAMU AAPM 2005 J. Perl