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Prophecy in community

Prophecy in community. 1 COR 14:26-31. Pauls’ emphasis.

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Prophecy in community

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  1. Prophecy in community 1 COR 14:26-31

  2. Pauls’ emphasis • 1 Corinthians 14:1-5 (ESV) Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. 4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up

  3. Prophecy in community • What is prophecy? • Is it still relevant today? • Why should we desire it? • How should we practice it?

  4. A. What is prophecy?

  5. (ἀποκάλυψις, apokalypsis) It is a revelation • 1 Corinthians 14:26-33 (ESV) What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. 27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

  6. It is revelation that builds up the church • 1 Corinthians 14:1-5 (ESV) Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. 4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up

  7. It can be a revelation about the secret things of an unbelieving person • 1 Corinthians 14:24-25 (ESV) But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, 25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you John Wimber prophecy

  8. Charles spurgeoncessationist “I have little confidence in those persons who speak of having received direct revelations from the Lord, as though He appeared otherwise than by and through the Gospel. His Word is so full, so perfect, that for God to make any fresh Revelation to you or me is quite needless. To do so would be to put a dishonor upon the perfection of that Word”.4 • Yet on two occasions • “Young man, those gloves you are wearing have not been paid for; you have stolen them from you,’ employer.” • “While preaching in the hall, on one occasion, I deliberately pointed to a man in the midst of the crowd, and said, `There is a man sitting there, who is a shoemaker; he keeps his shop open on Sundays, it was open last Sabbath morning, he took nine pence, and there was four pence profit out of it; his soul is sold to Satan for four pence!’

  9. Prophetic • Understand articulate truth • Evangelist • Prophet • Teacher • Preacher • Discerning spirits Building the church • Priestly • Understanding and supplying basic needs • Counselling • Healing • Encouragement • Mercy • Giving • Prophetic • Understand articulate truth • Evangelist • Prophet • Teacher • Preacher • Discerning spirits • Kingly • Understanding direction and group needs • Apostles • Leaders • Administration • Faith Tim Keller

  10. Prophecy is not teaching • 1 Corinthians 14:26-33 (ESV) What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. 27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

  11. Mentioned separately 1 Corinthians 12:29 (ESV) Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Ephesians 4:11-12 (ESV) And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,

  12. Pauls’ emphasis is order Prophecy can be spontaneous or reflective • 1 Corinthians 14:26-33 (ESV) What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. 27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

  13. Matthew 16:16-17 (ESV) Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. Revelation can take place without it Peter knowing about it--subconscious

  14. Inward eye of faith 1 Corinthians 2:9-10 (ESV) But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”— 10 these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.

  15. b. Is it still relevant today? Cessationists Continuationist

  16. Old testament prophets-authoritative and infallible • Deuteronomy 18:20 (ESV) But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ • 1 Samuel 3:19 (ESV) And Samuel grew, and the Lord was with him and let none of his words fall to the ground. • Jeremiah 28:15-17 (ESV) And Jeremiah the prophet said to the prophet Hananiah, “Listen, Hananiah, the Lord has not sent you, and you have made this people trust in a lie. 16 Therefore thus says the Lord: ‘Behold, I will remove you from the face of the earth. This year you shall die, because you have uttered rebellion against the Lord.’”17 In that same year, in the seventh month, the prophet Hananiah died.

  17. Jesus the ultimate prophet • Hebrews 1:1-2 (ESV) Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. • Jude 1:3 (ESV) Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints

  18. Function of prophecy in redemptive history Prophecy –fulfillment of the covenant promises that will come in Jesus Explain and unpack significance of what Jesus has done in redemptive history

  19. Perfect has come • 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 (ESV) Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. The 2nd coming The Bible The Matured church

  20. 1 Corinthians 13:11-12 (ESV) When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

  21. The context of 1st century readers Creation Christ coming 2nd coming Christ Eternity Canon 300AD Love is eternal Cessationists Spiritual gifts Perfect/complete Continuationist Spiritual gifts Perfect/complete

  22. Prof Thomas Schriener • Certainly this text teaches that the gifts could last until Jesus returns. There’s no definitive teaching in the Bible that they’ve ceased. We might even expect them to last until the second coming. But we see hints from Ephesians 2:20 and other texts that the gifts played a foundational role. I conclude, then, that 1 Cor 13:8-12 permits but doesn’t require the gifts to continue until the second coming. The Southern Baptist theological seminary

  23. Old testament looks forward to new • Numbers 11:24-30 (ESV) So Moses went out and told the people the words of the Lord. And he gathered seventy men of the elders of the people and placed them around the tent. 25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and took some of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders. And as soon as the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied. But they did not continue doing it. • 26 Now two men remained in the camp, one named Eldad, and the other named Medad, and the Spirit rested on them. They were among those registered, but they had not gone out to the tent, and so they prophesied in the camp. 27 And a young man ran and told Moses, “Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp.” 28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the assistant of Moses from his youth, said, “My lord Moses, stop them.” 29 But Moses said to him, “Are you jealous for my sake? Would that all the Lord's people were prophets, that the Lord would put his Spirit on them!” 30 And Moses and the elders of Israel returned to the camp.

  24. Difference between ot and nt Holy Spirit New Testament Old Testament Acts 2:17-18 (ESV) ‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; 18 even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.

  25. the issue is authority • Ephesians 2:20 (ESV) built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, The concern is the authority to add to Scripture

  26. If prophecy still exists today, it is hard to resist the conclusion that the foundation established by the apostles and prophets hasn’t been completed. Schreiner, Thomas R.. Spiritual Gifts . B&H Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

  27. New testament prophets---fallible • 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 (ESV) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.

  28. Prophecy Wayne Grudem Old Covenant Authority of actual words New Covenant New Covenant Authority of general content Upbuilding Church Spontaneous Apostles Authority of actual words…foundation

  29. Diakrino • 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 (ESV) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.

  30. Krino Dia-Krino Judge to decide Weigh-Listen carefully and sift the good from the bad, accepting some and rejecting the res

  31. 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 (ESV) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weighwhat is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.

  32. AGABUS PROPHECY • Acts 21:10-12 (ESV) While we were staying for many days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. 11 And coming to us, he took Paul's belt and bound his own feet and hands and said, “Thus says the Holy Spirit, This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’” 12 When we heard this, we and the people there urged him not to go up to Jerusalem.

  33. ACTUAL EVENT Acts 21:11b “Thus says the Holy Spirit, This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’” • Acts 21:30-33 (ESV) Then all the city was stirred up, and the people ran together. They seized Paul and dragged him out of the temple, and at once the gates were shut. 31 And as they were seeking to kill him, word came to the tribune of the cohort that all Jerusalem was in confusion. 32 He at once took soldiers and centurions and ran down to them. And when they saw the tribune and the soldiers, they stopped beating Paul. 33 Then the tribune came up and arrested him and ordered him to be bound with two chains

  34. In defence of agabus • Acts 28:17 (ESV) After three days he called together the local leaders of the Jews, and when they had gathered, he said to them, “Brothers, though I had done nothing against our people or the customs of our fathers, yet I was delivered as a prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans. • Those who think that Agabus erred define error too narrowly and rigidly. • Prophetic symbolism • The phrase Agabus used was “Thus says the Holy Spirit”

  35. Was the spirit wrong ? Or paul disobedient • Acts 21:3-4 (ESV) When we had come in sight of Cyprus, leaving it on the left we sailed to Syria and landed at Tyre, for there the ship was to unload its cargo. 4 And having sought out the disciples, we stayed there for seven days. And through the Spirit they were telling Paul not to go on to Jerusalem.

  36. Revelation Inference

  37. Major doctrinal controversy • Acts 15:1-2 (ESV) But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question

  38. The process Testimony of what God had done with Gentiles from Paul n Barnabas Debate Testimony of what God had done with Gentiles from Peter with implications Appeal to Scriptures..James

  39. The final decision • Acts 15:27-29 (ESV) We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality.

  40. How prophesy functioned in new testament Acts 15:30-35 (ESV) So when they were sent off, they went down to Antioch, and having gathered the congregation together, they delivered the letter. 31 And when they had read it, they rejoiced because of its encouragement. 32 And Judas and Silas, who were themselves prophets, encouraged and strengthened the brothers with many words. 33 And after they had spent some time, they were sent off in peace by the brothers to those who had sent them. 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.

  41. Misunderstanding of the meaning of prophecy Non Inscripturated Prophecy Inscripturated Prophesy (1 Kings 18: 4) Obadiah took a hundred prophets and hid them by fifties in a cave and fed them with bread and water.) (Num 11: 25) Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and took some of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders. And as soon as the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied. Moses Pentteuch Isaiah Jeremiah 1 Samuel 19:23-24 (ESV) And the Spirit of God came upon him also, and as he went he (Saul) prophesied

  42. New testament Inscripturated Prophesy Non Inscripturated Prophecy Application of gospel truth Such prophecies must still be evaluated, and they are principally submissive to the apostle and his gospel Apostle and Prophets--foundation

  43. OT prophets NT prophets No repeated checks on his authority and content of prophesy Repeated checks on the content of prophecy..implies mixed quality No death penalty False prophecy death Thus says the Lord –direct authority Such prophecy is rare Prophets under authority of apostles, elders and scrutiny of church Prophet held authority Lower profile High profile 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 (ESV) Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good.

  44. grudem NT PROPHECY Infallible Fallible APOSTOLIC PROPHECY NT prophets Foundational for church Edifies church Ephesians 2:20 Apostles and prophets- establish scripture 1 Cor 14 ---must be tested

  45. The issue of fallibility Prophecy Teaching Fallible

  46. A distinction without a difference Revelation of God • Revelation from God • Fallible..needs evaluation • Does not confer unchecked authority • Does not go beyond Scripture • Application of Scripture to situation NT Prophecy Grudem Continuationist Impressions Schriener Cessationist • Revelation from God • Fallible..needs evaluation • Does not confer unchecked authority • Does not go beyond Scripture • Application of Scripture to situation

  47. c. Why should we desire it

  48. 1 Corinthians 14:1-3 (ESV) Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.

  49. Paul’s warning to Cessationists Continuationists Rejection Abuse 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (ESV) Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (ESV) Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.

  50. prophecy “Prophecy, as a gift of the Holy Spirit, combines pastoral insight into the needs of persons, communities, and situations with the ability to address these with a God-given utterance or longer discourse (whether unprompted or prepared with judgment, decision, and rational reflection) leading to challenge or comfort, judgment, or consolation, but ultimately building up the addressees.” Anthony Thiselton

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