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The Digital Pathology Experience at Intermountain Healthcare. Using Digital Pathology in a Multi-Site, Geographically Distributed Integrated Delivery Network Paul M Urie MD PhD. Intermountain Healthcare Profile. Hospitals – 20 in Utah and 1 in Idaho 13 Urban sites and 8 rural sites
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The Digital Pathology Experience at Intermountain Healthcare Using Digital Pathology in a Multi-Site, Geographically Distributed Integrated Delivery Network Paul M Urie MD PhD
Intermountain Healthcare Profile • Hospitals – 20 in Utah and 1 in Idaho • 13 Urban sites and 8 rural sites • 2,584 licensed beds • Medical Group - employed physicians • 500 physicians in 150 clinics • Affiliated Physicians – 2,800 physicians • SelectHealth – 390,000 insured members • Highly integrated Information systems and data network
Intermountain Healthcare Hospitalsin the State of Utah Alta View American Fork Bear River Delta Community Dixie Regional Fillmore Community Garfield Memorial Heber Valley Intermountain Medical Center LDS Hospital Logan Regional McKay-Dee Hospital Orem Community TOSH Primary Children’s Sanpete Valley Sevier Valley Utah Valley Regional Valley View
Pathologist Distribution and Volumes • Urban North – Cassia, Logan, McKay-Dee • 5 pathologists, 22,000 surgical cases • Urban Central – LDS, IMC, Alta View, PCMC • 23 pathologists, 52,000 surgical cases, molecular pathology and flow cytometry • Central clinical laboratory • Urban South – UVRMC, AFH, OCH, Rurals • 5 pathologists, 22,000 surgical cases • Southwest – Dixie and Valley View • 5 pathologists, 16,000 surgical cases
Pathology Service Problems • Cases reviewed by the sub-specialty trained pathologists – consultations • Peer reviews for quality assurance • Frozen section interpretations at remote locations • Tumor board and conference presentations • Review of immunohistochemistry slides from the central lab • Image analysis to quantify IHC slides
Digital Pathology Test Hypotheses • Pathology presentations at Tumor boards and other conferences • Frozen section consultations • Remote interpretation of immunohistochemistry slides performed at the central lab • Remote consultations by pathologists within Intermountain Healthcare • Remote consultations by Stanford Surgical Pathology Consultants • Impact on IT resources and network
Digital Pathology Pilot Project at Intermountain Healthcare • Aperio ScanScopes and Spectrum software • Duration of 90 days • IMC Central lab – ScanScope XT and satellite server • AFH – ScanScope CS and satellite server • Dixie – ScanScope CS and satellite server • Lake Park Data Center – Spectrum Server • WAN with 100 MB links • 4 pathologists – sponsor and study directors • 11 participating pathologists • Approximately 12 Intermountain support personnel
Digital Pathology Pilot Project at Intermountain Healthcare Data Collection • Standard questionnaires – quantitative ratings and comments • Pathologists • Tumor conference participants • Support personnel • Quantitative timings of functions • IT monitors of network usage
Digital Pathology Project Pilot Sites Intermountain Medical Center American Fork Dixie Regional
Findings of the pilot: Overview Digital pathology can solve or at least ameliorate some distance-related problems in a geographically distributed health care system • Tumor conferences – overwhelmingly positive results in three sites • Frozen sections – 6 pathologists, 127 cases and 2 sites demonstrated 97-100% concordance with glass slides • Remote interpretation of IHC slides – excellent scans with at least 24 hr improvement in turnaround time • Remote consultations – inadequate testing with mixed results though interest remains high
Tumor Conference: More Efficient Preparation Process • “This is 2 to 3 times as fast” • “Time savings of at least 50%...” • “This is so much easier…there was less stress, it took less time, got me out of the zoo of taking photos” Average time saved = 65 minutes/week (preparation for one tumor conference)
Tumor Conference: Better Preparation Process • “The tech scans the slides freeing me up to do other tasks” • “I can pre-select the areas of highest interest” • “I liked that the label was scanned and I could double-check to make sure it’s the right patient”
Tumor Conference: A Better Presentation • “The low power images are as good as the microscope” • “I like being able to put up the H&E and the immuno right next to each other” • “It conveyed more information to clinicians” • “You can show relationships that are hard to show with only a single picture”
Tumor Conference: Overall Comments • “This is a superior way of presenting a case” • “It was like going down to pathology to look at slides with the pathologist”—Radiation Oncologist • “This would enable system-wide conferences” • “Dr. X, though initially slow to put his trust in the technology, now seems to prefer it” • “It would be nice to have the same level of technology as the radiologists”
Frozen Sections: Overall • 2 studies, 2 sites, 6 pathologists, 127 cases • Overall conclusions by study directors: • “I would be comfortable making a frozen section diagnosis on a digital slide” • “With the appropriate technical support and experience, use of the Aperio digital slides can effectively be used for nearly all frozen sections…” • 97-100% concordance rate, no major discrepancies
Frozen Sections: Learning Curve • “The diagnosis and scanning times got better as we got more practice” • “It took a little longer to view a digital image, but if you factor in the time to drive to American Fork, it saves time”
“This could improve patient care because you can get consultants to look at a frozen” “Frozens are of great interest to me because I’m the only one here” “A slightly higher deferral rate can be expected” The possible issues include: Added time involved in scanning slides Trust in non-pathologist to select and prepare sections Technical scanning problems, even minor ones, in this time-sensitive setting Frozen Sections: Comments
Image Quality Both low and high power image quality rated 4.7 on scale of 1-5 “The digital slide was an accurate representation” “I could do any regular immuno…more limited for a few microorganisms” “The quality of the scans was excellent” Turnaround Time “This did speed up the case” “This would save at least a day” “A day early would be great. It would be huge over the weekend” “This would take the wildcard of the courier out” Remote Viewing of Immunos, Special Stains: Promising but Not Fully Tested
Remote Second Opinions: Inadequate Testing but Interest Remains High • A few consultations requested from Stanford • Some consultants enthusiastic, others not • In one case “it worked the way it was supposed to”…they called right back, suggested some immunos. We did those and scanned them and kept the billing inside” • Remote consultations within Intermountain did not take off, though “despite these failures, they may be beneficial in certain circumstances” • “I would use this quite a bit”
Network Architecture American Fork • Slides scanned and stored locally • Slides viewed from anywhere on the network Image Pointers stored on central database (not images) IMC Dixie
Conclusions Tumor conferences – overwhelming positive results Frozen sections – 97-100% concordance with glass slides Remote interpretation of IHC slides – excellent scans with at least 24 hr improvement in turnaround time Remote consultations – inadequate testing with mixed results though interest remains high Primary conclusion: digital pathology can solve or at least ameliorate some distance related problems in a geographically distributed health care system
Generous and extraordinary support from Aperio Intermountain pathology staff and IT department staff Intermountain affiliated pathologists AcknowledgementIntermountain Healthcare Digital Pathology Experience