Workshop Proposed Structure

1. Workshop – Proposed Structure Purpose - to discuss:- Industry requirements, in types, skills and numbers, for future skilled geospatial workforce? The adequacy of current arrangements to produce the required skilled workforce What improvements and changes might be required   Structure 10- 11am - short presentations Dr Ken Lyons – Spatial Info Services – Examining the skilled workforce supply chain –Queensland findings Mr George Havakis – People for Business Pty. Ltd.- A recruiter’s perspective Ms Lynnette Terrett - Rapidmap –Destination Spatial Committee - Victorian Taskforce experience Mr Geoff Zeiss – Autodesk (USA), Director of Technology – International trends and perspectives 11.00- 11.20 Coffee 11.20 – 12.40 – short breakout groups Types of qualifications and skills required – Is there a shortage? – How to determine future demand How initial skills and qualifications might best be provided and ideas on current supply arrangements The need for and provision of post initial training and education How best to attract the types and numbers of new entrants for initial training and education Career planning, membership of professional organisations, specialist certification – need, attractiveness 12.40 -13.00 Summarise findings

2. the QLD SUPPLY CHAIN for SKILLED WORKFORCEAN EXAMINATION

3. AIM To provide a QUICK overview STRUCTURE The visible problem Surfacing the hidden– Taking a systems view Findings, issues, possible improvements Observations

4. THE VISIBLE PROBLEM –DEMAND > SUPPLY = SHORTAGE

5. The Questions re SHORTAGE ONCE OFF? SHORT TERM? – no need to worry LONG TERM? STRUCTURAL? - need to address - no quick fix possible

6. A SYSTEM as an ICEBERG

7. EVENTS – AT POINTS IN TIME

8. BOT – BEHAVIOUR over TIME

10. THE MAJOR PROBLEMS in Qld - NOW

11. EACH ELEMENT of the SUPPLY CHAIN EXAMINED

12. ATTRACTING NEW ENTRANTS Industry requirement Necessary mix for course types & OP scores Low drop out rate Current Situation Insufficient, fluctuate, avg qual < than other courses; few females Career paths & attractors /turn offs unclear Key Issues What will attract who, & how? What numbers reqd & level of enrty quals? Possible Actions Clarify the objectives & target segments for various courses target more surgically & sophisticated Establish career paths, traineeships, blended learning (coop with others in Aust)

13. TECHNICIAN TRAINING Industry requirement To have the relevant programs (to produce technicians in: type, number; time, qual & have pathways to 1st degree Current Situation Very small VET program Fed Govt providing $s (competitive) for skills training (VET) Industry use of technicians growing – high demand to upskill & qualify existing techs Key Issues How can trg supplier best meet employer needs for flexibility & remain viable? Possible Actions Introduce a substantial VET program –prob Cert 4 in Svy, Dip in spatial, Cert 2 in schools Develop clear career progression & quals pathways Get spatial traineeships into the QLd Govt system

14. FIRST DEGREE EDUCATION Industry Requirement To have respected & sustainable programs that deliver graduates: required number, type etc Current Situation Current arrangements not fully meeting industry requirements –critical mass lacking 1st degree educ has to be considered with PG course work No agreed characteristics for (spatial) programs to meet; no “benchmark” comparison with similar in Aust or OS Key Issues Should there be characteristics & comparisons? What arrangements would provide critical mass, allow industry requirements to be met? How might the involvement of 2 X Unis be handled? Possible Actions Set overall requirements, characteristics & work to achieve Unis offering svy/spatial – QUT & USQ –status quo not suitable for the long term – way to meet the requirements will need a lot of discussion & negotiation Bolster UQ spatial numbers & content Have formal Aust wide course accreditation? (coop with others in Aust) 3 or 4 yr nominal duration? More intense option & do in 2 yrs?

15. REGULATORY REGISTRATION & PROFESSIONAL ACCREDITATION Industry Requirements Fit for purpose, seen to have value, sought after Have the numbers reqd – not too reliant on those from OS Current Situation Continuing AS IS will see future numbers (reg/cert) greatly decrease Overcoming the decrease will take considerable time & effort –not guaranteed Key Issues Is requirement valid? – Are current systems/bodies meeting needs? 1st degree -3 yr not 4 yr? have PG Cert in specialty & tie to rego/certify? Need scenarios & modelling for possible future numbers by type? (eg-3D digital cadastre with integrated 3D RORs & integrated 3D built & proposed environment Possible actions Make reg/cert more attractive & Set up formal coaching Harmonise the 2 diff rego/certify in engineering & mining surveying Build up local - less reliance on interstate & O’s Model a range of scenarios (coop with others in Aust)

16. PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT - POST 1ST DEGREE Industry Requirements Have programs in 3 areas (PG Uni, non formal but structured, ad hoc) Be of qual, attractive & supported, viabel – mix of current & future needs Current Situation Requirements not fully met – prob need Aust/NZ coop effort to meet needs Key Issues Requirements & current situation valid? Willingness for Much greater coop between content providers, delivers, awarders to get scale, numbers, depth & breadth, ROI, viability – eg pilot above; annual offerings Possible Actions Various Qld Unis coop in PGrad course wk Cert, Dip for greater depth, breadth & ROI 1 Course Work Masters for all Aust – international standing, depth & breadth (coop with others in Aust)

17. SUPPLY & DEMAND MODELLING Industry Requirements To understand what drives demand & supply & to have supporting models To use results to inform workforce planning & development Current Situation Not currently existing in Qld & prob not in Aust This work showed proof of applicability - in ~ 10 yrs BIG probs - aging workforce & low rate of new skills joining Key Issues Does industry believe following useful & should be developed & used operationally S&M modelling? Industry Workforce planning & development ? (other industries use & Fed Govt (DEEWA) seems to expect if want assistance Possible Actions Extend supply & aging to all areas of spatial industry Add demand to model Formulate Scenario & do exploration/modelling & “what ifs” – learn & use to guide policy (coop with others in Aust)

18. INDUSTRY (comments) Current bodies do not include/ have close liaison with sig elements Some confusion in industry on: - what surveying & spatial are – what & who comprises the industry - what the biz of the industry is Needs to speak with 1 voice – if want sig $s, policy – Qld industry alliance? there are funding sources – need lot more knowledge & street smarts; alliance; patience & persistence (coop with others in Aust)

19. SOME COMMENTS onPARTICULAR ASPECTS

20. The QLD Industry -Segments– Bodies – Reach of Influence

21. The Bid for Fed CSIF $s Consortium formed to Bid Passed 1st Stage – decision expected Aug 2011 Focused on upskilling of technicians – VET ~$9m if fully successful 80 orgs/firms – 500 Svy techs – 500 Spatial techs

22. post 1st Degree Skilling& subsequent ageing & losses

23. BOT for Surveyors - Numbers Registered, Age & Net Increase

25. Crunching Data & Modelling - indicates AGEING BULGE – in higher skills categories NOT REPLACING few moving to higher cats of registration & certification – no incentive? Sig less in 5-10 yrs if continue AS IS RELY ON NON QLD TRAINED ~25-30% from elsewhere Insufficient from QLD courses? INCREASE GRADS from QLD Courses ½ loss rate during training (50 to 25%; Uof Otago ~12%?) Upskill to Certificate 4 [200-300 techs?] Intro VET Cert 4/ Diploma in Surveying [50/yr?] Spatial?? Increase Uni enrolments [by 50-100%?] Increase quality at entry? Traineeships? Higher salaries? More flexible modes of training/education?

27. HOW DO OUR TRG/EDUC PROGRAMS RATE?

28. The Requirement for the supply side? APPROPRIATENESS -when the supply chain produces the trained personnel required r Types Quantity Quality - ranked in the top 10% of like courses in Aust/NZ and in the top 20 of like courses worldwide in reasonable time frames provide graduates with the necessary intellectual base for further professional and academic development   LONGEVITY -most likely when – The financial base is very very sound The program is rated “highly valued” by University senior management employers & industry The program has its own stand alone administrative standing   ROBUSTNESS - most likely when – If it can adjust quickly to marked changed circumstances and still be appropriate and exhibit longevity

29. FORCES in PLAY – re Spatial Educ/Trg Suppliers

30. Standing Back - INDUSTRY needs to Determine & state its REQUIREMENTS for skilled workforce [not clearly known or stated at the moment] Work with its supplies (of skills) to ensure gets what required & SUPPLIERS have critical mass, longevity & robustness [few suppliers would meet all requirements] Have a much better WHOLE of INDUSTRY focus & mechanisms Have & apply (to suppliers) measures of EFFECTIVENESS & EFFICIENCY + EARLY WARNING SYSTEM BE A LOT LESS INSULAR- learn from WHAT & HOW other industries are doing re skills development (incl accessing $s)

31. Limitations on Stage 1 work “Spatial” not well understand Some industry segments not well connected with No wide ranging questionnaire across ALL industry Lack of reliable numbers as BOT & lack of what should be looking for as early warning indicators Don’t know the views, aspirations, destinations of recent graduates Only proof of concept work done for supply & ageing modelling & demand not included

32. QLD Industry – Next Steps Not all agree with all recommendations Agreement reached on aspects to go forward in a Stage 2