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The Big Questions. Leaving school after Grade 10?IB or not IB?What IB subjects should I be choosing?If no diploma, what are my options?What if I have absolutely no clue what I want do after school?Who is this guy standing in front of the class and just what does he do?. Leaving School Afte
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1. Grade 10 Introduction to Universities and Careers “Life after school and how to get there!”
Thursday 10th March 2011
2. The Big Questions Leaving school after Grade 10?
IB or not IB?
What IB subjects should I be choosing?
If no diploma, what are my options?
What if I have absolutely no clue what I want do after school?
Who is this guy standing in front of the class and just what does he do?
3. Leaving School After Grade 10 The Realschulabschluss requires five Cs or more in IGCSE. They are:
Courtesy, Commitment, Cooperation, Consideration, Caring
Sorry . . .
They are in English Language, German, History, Maths and Combined Sciences
The Bildungsagentur Dresden will then convert the IGCSE into a Realschulabschl.
4. What the Realschulabschluss enables: An apprenticeship (Lehre/Ausbildung)
Entrance to vocational colleges (Fachoberschule, Berufl. Gymnasium)
Eventual possibilities for study at a technical university (Fachhochschule)
More information from the Arbeitsagentur (www.arbeitsagentur.de)
5. Staying on to do the IB The IB is recognised as university entrance qualification in many countries
LIS focuses on the US, British and German university systems
The Bildungsagentur will convert IB to HZB (Hochschulzugangsberechtigung), the permission to study in Germany
BUT!
6. IB Requirements for HZB A foreign language at A
A HL science or maths
Three HL and three SL subjects
The IB diploma, certificates not acceptable
Not maths studies
7. How do I choose my IB subjects? Make your strong subjects Higher Level (check IGCSE results)
Make sure your A1 choice is in your strongest language
Tailor your career choice and subject choice to your strengths (more anon)
BE REALISTIC!!!
8. Some examples Medicine
Chemistry HL, Biology HL, Lang. A1 HL
Business (All Variations)
History HL, Language A1 HL, Maths HL
Law
Language A1 HL, Language A2 HL, Hist. HL
Engineering
Physics HL, Chemistry HL, Maths HL
9. Some caveats Many university courses have very high entry requirements
E.g.: Medicine (min. 38 IB points and 1.7 Abitur NC)
German universities only care about NC so choose subjects that will maximise IB points at HL
Talk to and LISTEN to your teachers
10. I am, like, sooo totally clueless, dude! Total bummer Seek advice from parents, teachers & friends
Take a careers test (eg. Stamford Test on www.ucas.ac.uk)
Make an appointment for careers advice at the Arbeitsagentur
Be guided by academic strengths and/or favourite subjects
Check out the guides, brochures and information in Room 410
Check out www.lis-careers.com
Talk to me (by appointment only)
11. The three systems: a brief overview Country
When
How
Requirements UK
September 2012
Through UCAS: five choices (four for medical sciences)
Personal statement, reference, predicted grades
12. The three systems: a brief overview Country
When
How
Requirements USA
November 2012
Individual applications to universities
Recommendations, SATs, transcripts,
LOADS OF MONEY!
13. The three systems: a brief overview Country
When
How
Requirements
Germany
April – July 2013
Individual applications (except medical sciences = ZVS)
IB diploma, HZB, BUREAUCRACY
14. What about IB certificates ? No possibility for study in Germany (although entrance exams are making an appearance) but SATs in connection with an accredited HSD is an option to getting Abitur
Many UK universities only want a number of IB points (not necessarily diploma)
US universities are often happy with SATs and GPA transcripts
Private universities often less fixed on qualifications
Study later (many universities like “life experience”)
15. Please allow me to introduce myself (I’m a man of wealth and taste) University admissions coordinator
Assist you in choosing your career path
Supervise application process for Germany, the USA, UK & Holland
Keep you real, man!
Fulfil school’s obligations in the application process
BUT NOT THE NANNY
16. ANY QUESTIONS? justin.sands@intschool-leipzig.com