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Brian Hanson, PE Craig Fredeen, PE

Get insights into Alaska AELS Board's latest regulation updates covering new engineering disciplines, impact on engineers, CE requirements, B+30 history, and future steps. Learn about "General Licensure," how surveyors impact CE, and the B+30/MOE update. Explore the integration of new engineering licenses and continuing education enhancements.

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Brian Hanson, PE Craig Fredeen, PE

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  1. State of Alaska board of registration for architects, engineers, and land surveyors (AELS) Boardregulation update Brian Hanson, PE Craig Fredeen, PE

  2. AELS Board Regulation Update • What we’re going to cover in this session: • Recent Addition of Engineering Disciplines • Changes from Original Proposed Regulation • Continuing Education Update • Helpful Hints on How to Document in case of Audit • How Integration of Surveyor CE Regulations Impact Engineers • Update on MOE/B+30 • Questions

  3. History on “General Licensure” • AELS Board receives a “Sunset Audit” every 5 years from the Legislature. • Past audits have asked for expansion of the engineering licenses recognized by the State. • If not done, Legislature has authority to make it happen themselves. • Continuing Education is an example of this. • Current regs do not currently accept Structural or Environmental comity applications. • They must take CE exam.

  4. Today’s Engineering Disciplines • AELS Board’s current recognized engineering licenses • Chemical Engineer • Civil Engineer • Electrical Engineer • Mechanical Engineer • Mining Engineer • Petroleum Engineer

  5. Path to “General Licensure” • The Board started on this process many years ago. • Examples came in from comity applications that shaped current regulations. • Significant debate among AELS members. • Proposed regulations are not “General Licensure”. • Expansion of current licenses. • Purpose was to integrate all disciplines that NCEES has test for.

  6. Regulation Process • AELS Board created “General Licensure” committee. • Regulation was crafted by committee and finalized by the Board. • Sent out for public comment November 4th. • Min 30 days, General Licensure was out for 90 days. • Two Board Meetings for verbal testimony

  7. New Engineering Disciplines • The new engineering licenses added at the February 2011 AELS Board meeting: • Agricultural Engineer • Control System Engineer • Environmental Engineer • Fire Protection Engineer • Industrial Engineer • Metallurgical and Materials Engineer • Naval Architectural and Marine Engineer • Nuclear Engineer • Structural Engineer • (Architectural Engineer was dropped)

  8. What Happened at Last Meeting? • Regulation was PASSED by the Board on February 4, 2011 with modifications • Added back license identifiers to stamp • Implementation date of August 31, 2011. • What’s next? • Reg goes to Assistant Attorney General for review, then signed by Lt. Governor. • Two more Board meetings before August 31st. • Review and create implementation regulations. • Implementation regulations may be public noticed.

  9. Overlapping Fields of Design • New disciplines do create more overlap. • Civil - Structural and Environmental. • Fire Protection – Mechanical and Electrical • Controls – Mechanical and Electrical • Other overlaps occur with Industrial and Architectural licenses.

  10. Impact to Alaskan Engineers • Will I be able to do what I did before? • Yes! • Board still focuses on three-legged stool for judging competency. • Education • Experience • Testing • Will there be “grandfathering”? • Most likely, but still defining. • Not necessarily for all disciplines. • Comity or testing is best path to new licenses.

  11. Continuing Education Version 2.0 • Halfway through second cycle of CE. • Need 24 PDHs by end of 2011. • Hints for documenting CE: • Prove that you were there. • Save your receipts. • Invitations do not count. • Save information about what the topic was about. • Don’t forget about non-conference PDHs. • Save documentation for carry-over from last cycle

  12. How Surveyors Impact CE • Recent regulation combined the surveyor CE requirements with those of the engineers and architects. • Additional CE methods added: • Authoring papers, articles, or books (max 10 PDH) • Serving as an officer or active committee member of professional or technical society (max 8 PDH)

  13. Quick History of B+30/MOE • NCEES created a committee with several other professional societies including ASCE and NSPE to review “big picture” of engineering licensure. • Study noted that core engineering college courses were being reduced for BS degree. • Increase in number of “soft skills” credits. • Reduction in overall credits. • Expanding technology and Body of Knowledge (BOK). • Study recommended more education beyond BS for eligibility to take PE test. • NCEES formed committee. Came up with B+30. • Required 30 college credits beyond BS degree. • Contentious debate, close votes, B+30 passed • Eventually passed into NCEES Model Law and Model Engineer 2020. • B+30 now known as Masters or Equivalent (MOE)

  14. Update on B+30/MOE • NCEES Member Boards asked for more alternatives to B+30. • NCEES committee came back with two alternate paths to 30 credits that includes: • BS with 150 credits, minimum STEM credits • Going to NCEES national meeting for vote • Mixture of additional years of experience, documented mentoring, and continuing education • Still in NCEES committee. Being refined. • Still slated for 2020 start for NCEES • No state looking to implement at this time.

  15. QUESTIONS?

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