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Thinking about the Karabut experiment

Thinking about the Karabut experiment. Peter Hagelstein 1 and Irfan Chaudhary 2 1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2 University of Engineering and Technology, Lahore. Vibrations to nuclear excitation. Can we go the other way?.

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Thinking about the Karabut experiment

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  1. Thinking about the Karabut experiment Peter Hagelstein1 and Irfan Chaudhary2 1Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2University of Engineering and Technology, Lahore

  2. Vibrations to nuclear excitation

  3. Can we go the other way? • Donor receiver model developed for converting donor energy to oscillator excitation • But can we go the other way? • Is it possible to start with an excited oscillator, and transfer the energy to two-level systems • Is it possible to excite nuclei with vibrational excitation? • Donor-receiver model would say yes

  4. Can it be demonstrated? • Model predicts coherent energy exchange between equivalent two-level systems with a large transition energy, and an oscillator with a low transition energy • Two-level systems can be atoms, molecules, nuclei, spin systems • Oscillator can be vibrational, electrical, plasmonic, electromagnetic • Many possibilities for systems to show the effect • But can be demonstrate it between phonons and nuclei?

  5. What are lowest energy nuclear transitions? P. L. Hagelstein, “Bird’s eye view of phonon models for excess heat in the Fleischmann-Pons experiment,” J. Cond. Mat. Nucl. Sci. (in press)

  6. 201Hg transition at 1565 eV is optimum candidate among stable nuclei to demonstrate effect. But the coupling between the lattice and this transition is weak. All we need is a strongly coupled system to help convert the energy.

  7. Recall that relevant oscillation frequency is So, whether energy can be transferred at all depends on the parameters of the strongly-coupled system

  8. But we have an analytic model for the relevant wavefunction of the strongly coupled system, and we can compute the overlap matrix element easily!

  9. Excitation of 201Hg

  10. System design We have considered a number of designs for a system to demonstrate this effect. The first issue is what the strongly coupled (receiver) transition might be. After analyzing systematically all possible transitions, it seems that an electronic transition would provide the best coupling. The design that results is big, and requires very high (THz) frequency phonon mode.

  11. Phased array collimation An array of dipole antennas that are in phase can make a colliated beam.

  12. Conceptual design ACME THz vibrational source 1.5 keV collimated x-rays Hg containing sample

  13. Predicted spectrum is broad Spread in phonon distribution that causes excitation will show up in the broadening of the line, and shift due to E2 in photon density of states; line will shift to lower energy due to electron promotion energy loss

  14. Take away message • Model predicts that we should be able to convert vibrational energy to nuclear excitation • Easiest if lower energy excitation • Lowest energy excitation from ground state among stable nuclei is 201Hg • Consideration of design, estimation of physical parameters • Conversion would involve very broad line • Coherent energy transfer would result in collimated x-ray emission (like in high harmonic generation)

  15. Karabut experiment

  16. Karabut • Alexander Karabut (Luch Institute, Moscow) showed up at ICCF10 talking about having demonstrated an x-ray laser • Karabut was working with a high-current glow discharge • Karabut observed collimated x-ray radiation near 1.5 keV • (No way for there to be an x-ray laser in this experiment) • Must be some alternate explanation…

  17. Karabut experiment (ICCF10) Collimated x-ray effect seen with different metals (Al, V, Fe, Zn, Mo, Pd, W, others) …and with different gasses (H2, D2, Kr, Xe)

  18. Pinhole camera image of cathode Collimated x-rays very bright, originate from cathode surface

  19. Emission after turn off

  20. A. B. Karabut, E. A. Karabut, P. L. Hagelstein, “Spectral and temporal characteristics of x-ray emission from metal electrodes in a high-current glow discharge,” J. Cond. Mat. Nucl. Sci. (in press).

  21. Collimated emission appears after discharge is turned off, up to 1 msec and more

  22. Diffuse emission during discharge

  23. Bent mica spectrometer X-ray spectrometer: 1– cathode holder, 2– cathode sample, 3 – vacuum discharge chamber, 4 – anode, 5 –15  Be screen , 6 – input slit of spectrometer, 7 – crystals holder, 8 – curved mica crystal, 9 – x-ray film, 10 – area of reflection spectra , 11 – input and output cooling water.

  24. Diffuse Kr L-shell emission X-ray spectra for Pd and Al cathodes taken in Kr gas showing characteristic L-shell emission (denoted as 3 and 4 in the spectra) near 1.6 keV (the La1 and La2 transitions are listed at 1.581 keV and at 1.580 keV). Minor differences between the observed and known energy may be due to the use of the normal incidence grating formula.

  25. The Kr L-shell line is diffuse and originates from the cathode surface (not from the gas). It shows up in the spectrum a bit off due to the way the data was analyzed.

  26. Diffuse continuum emission

  27. Spectrum of continuum Pd, D2 gas

  28. Voltage dependence

  29. The diffuse continuum emission is a broad feature that originates from the cathode surface. The width depends on the applied voltage (and hence current). When narrowest it is centered near 1.2 keV.

  30. Collimated beamlets

  31. Interpret the curves as due to a minor change in direction of the beam during the emission. The emission is sufficiently bright to damage (cause solarization) film.

  32. Beams seen long after discharge Data collected for 20 hours after the discharge turned off

  33. Collimated emission taken long after the discharge is turned off is particularly interesting because effect can only be due to vibrational effects (no possible residual from the discharge).

  34. Gozzi’s experiment (ICCF6) 12 J of gamma emission, 9.3 MJ of excess heat From absorption coefficient of Pd cathodes, can estimate the energy of the gamma signal. Gozzi et al obtained an energy of 89 keV, and suggested that it was due to 109mAg

  35. Take away message • Karabut sees collimated and diffuse x-ray emission • Diffuse emission during discharge • Characteristic x-ray lines and broad continuum feature • Collimated emission extremely bright, from after turn off • Beams from around 700 eV to about 5 keV • Propose that this is due to vibrational coupling to 201Hg • Beamlets near 90 keV seen by Gozzi

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