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This document provides the agenda and records straw roll/pre-motion results for the IEEE 802.11 TGaf's V/R.UR and EMS/C Adhoc group during their November 2010 face-to-face meeting in Dallas, Texas.
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IEEE 802.11 TGafCR Adhoc Group Agenda and Report Date: 2010-11-08 Authors: Padam Kafle, Nokia
Abstract This document lists the agenda and records straw roll/pre-motion results for the TGaf’s V/R UR and EMS/C Adhoc group for comment resolution during November 2010 F2F meeting at the IEEE 802 Plenary in Dallas, Texas. Padam Kafle, Nokia
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: • “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents orpatent claims • “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) • The above does not apply if the patentclaim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 • Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged • No duty to perform a patent search Padam Kafle, Nokia
Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Padam Kafle, Nokia
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Padam Kafle, Nokia
Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or • Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or • Cause an LOA to be submitted Padam Kafle, Nokia
Other Documents and WebPages to Review • Please review the documents at the following links:- IEEE Patent Policy - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt- Patent FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf- LoA Form - http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf- Affiliation FAQ -http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html - Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf- Ethics - http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/about/CoE_poster.pdf- IEEE 802.11 Working Group P&P -https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/public-file/07/11-07-0360-04-0000-802-11-policies-and-procedures.doc • New 802 WG P&P: https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0007-02-00EC-draft-lmsc-wg-p-p.pdf • New 802 LMSC P&P:https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0005-02-00EC-draft-revised-lmsc-p-p-for-wg-p-p-ballot.pdf • New 802 LMSC OM:https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/09/ec-09-0006-02-00EC-draft-revision-of-the-lmsc-om-for-wg-p-p.pdf Padam Kafle, Nokia
Meeting Etiquette • IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization • Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly and professionalmanner in accordance with the policies and procedures governed by the organization. • Individuals are to address the “Technical” content of the subject under consideration and refrain from making “personal” comments to or about the presenter. Padam Kafle, Nokia
Plan and Execute Draft Cleanup (11-10/1273r1) • Cleanup plan • Vote on or remove un-voted resolutions (V/RUR) • Eliminate multiple solutions/comment (EMS/C) • Correct known errors (CKE) • Changes to regulatory items (REG) • Based on regulations changes • Need to move to regulatory annex to enable global applicability • Execution • Small teams to address the issues • EMS/C: • V/RUR: • CKE: • REG: • Vote on team proposals Padam Kafle, Nokia
Draft Submissions Items Never Voted 11-10/710r4, the TV band DSE procedure and the multi-band DSE procedure (Chen Sun) => presented on 11/08 PM1 11-10/711r5, update of the E2.4 DSE procedure (Chen Sun) => presented on 11/08 PM1 11-10/712r4, proposed changes regarding Measurement 11-10/813r7, enablement request/grant exchange between beaconing stations with the enabler entity 11-10/1037r3clarify the usage of the DSE signalling methods according to the deployment scenarios. 11-10/794r6 comment resolutions did not change text, but responds to 55 comments 11-10/1233r0 11-10/1232r0 11-10/1040r3 11-10/1231r1 November 2010 Slide 10 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Agenda for Tuesday AM1 Session • Call meeting to order • Attendance recording reminder • Scope of the CR (V/R UR & CMS/C) Adhoc group (as per 11-10/1273r1) • Review remaining un-voted submissions: • 11-10/712r4, proposed changes regarding Measurement (Yohannes Alemseged- 15 min) • 11-10/1040r3 (Ensun Kim, 15 min) => will be revised r4 • 11-10/813r7, enablement request/grant exchange between beaconing stations with the enabler entity (Padam Kafle, 30 min) • 11-10/1231r1 (Zhou Lan, 20 min) • 11-10/1037r3, clarify the usage of the DSE signalling methods according to the deployment scenarios (Zhou Lan, 12 min) • 11-10/1233r2 (Yohannes Alemseged, 20 min) • 11-10/1232r0 (Chen Sun, 15 min) • 11-10/794r6, comment resolutions did not change text, but responds to 55 comments (Peter Ecclesine) • Strawpolls on documents discussed in the adhoc (last 15 min) November 2010 Slide 11 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Agenda for Tuesday EVE Session • Review remaining un-voted submissions: • 11-10/1233r2 (Yohannes Alemseged, 20 min) • 11-10/1232r2 (Chen Sun, 15 min) • 11-10/1037r3, clarify the usage of the DSE signalling methods according to the deployment scenarios (Zhou Lan, 12 min) • 11-10/794r6, comment resolutions did not change text, but responds to 55 comments (Peter Ecclesine) • Strawpolls on the documents discussed in the adhoc • Start discussing multiple resolutions (as per 11-10/1273r1) • Plan for next meeting November 2010 Slide 12 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Agenda for Wednesday PM1 Session • Review remaining un-voted submissions: • 11-10/1343r0 (Jae-Hyung Song, 20 min) • 11-10/794r5, comment resolutions did not change text, but responds to 55 comments (Peter Ecclesine, 30 min) • Strawpolls on documents discussed in the adhoc • Discuss recommendations to the task group • Recess November 2010 Slide 13 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 1 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/0710r4? • Yes: 12 • No: 5 • Abs: 11 November 2010 Slide 14 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 2 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/0711r5? • Yes: 13 • No: 3 • Abs: 10 November 2010 Slide 15 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 3 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/0712r4? • Yes: 13 • No: 6 • Abs: 6 November 2010 Slide 16 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 4 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1040r3? • Yes: 10 • No: 3 • Abs: 13 November 2010 Slide 17 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 5 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/0813r7? • Yes: 10 • No: 0 • Abs: 13 November 2010 Slide 18 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 6 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1231r1? • Yes: 13 • No: 7 • Abs: 7 November 2010 Slide 19 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 7 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1037r3? • Yes: 17 • No: 0 • Abs: 3 November 2010 Slide 20 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 8 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1233r2? • Yes: 17 • No: 0 • Abs: 4 November 2010 Slide 21 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 9 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1232r2? • Yes: 17 • No: 0 • Abs: 3 November 2010 Slide 22 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 10 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/1343r0? • Yes: 13 • No: 0 • Abs: 11 November 2010 Slide 23 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll # 11 • Do you support to approve the resolutions in document 11-10/0794r5? • Yes: 14 • No: 0 • Abs: 3 November 2010 Slide 24 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Multiple Resolutions • CIDs 4, 5 Agree in Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/767r1 Approved in July 2010 • CID 6 Agree In Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Disagree 11-10/790r2 Approved in July 2010 • CID 23 Agree in Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/790r2 Approved in July 2010. • CID 113 Agree 11-10/724r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/767r1 Approved in July 2010 =>Chen Sun • CID 114 Agree in Principle 11-10/724r3 Approved in July 2010. Agree in Principle based on the discussion and editorial instructions in 11-10/1130r0 Approved in Sept 2010 =>Chen Sun Padam Kafle, Nokia
Multiple Resolutions • How to address multiple resolutions? • Review current status of spreadsheet (11-10-595/r14) • CIDs 4, 5 Agree in Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/767r1 Approved in July 2010 • The author of 11-10/767r1 agrees to only use 11-10/737r3 as resolution • Doc: 1130r3 from Chen Sun • CID 113 Agree 11-10/724r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/767r1 Approved in July 2010 • CID 114 Agree in Principle 11-10/724r3 Approved in July 2010. Agree in Principle based on the discussion and editorial instructions in 11-10/1130r0 Approved in Sept 2010 • The author of 11-10/790r2 has withdrawn resolution for CID 6 & 23 from 790r2 (only single resolutions remains for these CIDs now) • CID 6 Agree In Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Disagree 11-10/790r2 Approved in July 2010 • CID 23 Agree in Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010, Agree in Principle 11-10/790r2 Approved in July 2010. November 2010 Slide 26 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll #12 November 2010 • Do you support to approve the resolutions for comments 113 and 114 as proposed by document 11-10/1130r3? • Yes: 20 • No: 0 • Abs: 2 Slide 27 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll #13 November 2010 • Do you support to approve the resolution to comments # 4 and 5 as: Agree in Principle as per the document 11-10/737r3? • Yes: 13 • No: 0 • Abs: 6 Slide 28 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Strawpoll #14 November 2010 • Do you support to approve the single resolution to comment # 6 and 23 as per the document 11-10/737r3 (after withdrawal of the resolution for these comments from 11-10/790r2)? • Yes: 17 • No: 0 • Abs: 2 Slide 29 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Recommendations to the Task Group (1) Un-voted submissions: • Based on the results of the strawpolls conducted for the un-voted submissions, the adhoc group recommends the task group to conduct motions on the following text submissions: • 11-10/710r4 • 11-10/711r5 • 11-10/712r4 • 11-10/1040r3 • 11-10/813r7 • 11-10/1231r1 • 11-10/1037r3 • 11-10/1233r2 • 11-10/1232r0 • 11-10/1343r0 • 11-10/794r5 • This subgroup recommends to discuss the time for conducting motions for the above submissions in next TGaf session November 2010 Slide 30 Padam Kafle, Nokia
Recommendations to the Task Group (2) Multiple Resolutions: • The adhoc group has reviewed the multiple resolutions accepted for certain comments, and recommends the following resolutions based on the strawpoll results to be voted in the task group: • CID 4 & 5: Agree in Principle as per the document 11-10/737r3 • CID 6: Agree In Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010 • CID 23: Agree In Principle 11-10/737r3 Approved in July 2010 • CID 113:Agree in principle, use the document 11-10/1130r3 to replace 11-10/724r3, 11-10/767r1, and 11-10/1130r0 as the final solution based on the editorial instructions in this document • CID 114: Agree in principle, use document 11-10/1130r3 to replace 11-10/724r3 and 11-10/1130r0 as the final solution based on the editorial instructions in this document November 2010 Slide 31 Padam Kafle, Nokia