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Creative Ways To Identify Talent The Israel Football Association March 2012

Creative Ways To Identify Talent The Israel Football Association March 2012. ‘ The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, rather it is to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons’. Anon. Talent Identification. Assessing ‘talent’ . José V. Portolés Montañés.

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Creative Ways To Identify Talent The Israel Football Association March 2012

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  1. Creative Ways To Identify TalentThe Israel Football Association March 2012

  2. ‘ The function of the expert is not to be more right than other people, rather it is to be wrong for more sophisticated reasons’ Anon

  3. Talent Identification Assessing ‘talent’ José V. Portolés Montañés Performance ‘The educator must above all understand how to wait; to reckon all effects in the light of the future, not of the present’. Ellen Key, 1911 Potential

  4. Talent Identification ‘Recruitment is a process, scouting is an activity’ Jim Lawler Manchester United Head of Recruitment

  5. Talent Identification ‘ The evidence that we could not forecast success accurately was overwhelming. The story was always the same: our ability to predict performance at the school was negligible. Our forecasts were better than blind guesses, but not by much.’ Daniel Kahneman Thinking Fast and Slow Nobel Prize 2002 ( Decision Making and Uncertainty)

  6. Talent Identification ‘We had compelling impressions of the behaviour we observed and no good way to represent our ignorance of the factors that would eventually determine how well the candidate would perform as an officer’ ‘Confidence is a feeling which reflects the coherence of the information and the cognitive ease of processing it’ Daniel Kahneman Thinking Fast and Slow

  7. Muller – Lyer Test The Same

  8. Talent Identification ‘Confidence is a feeling which reflects the coherence of the information and the cognitive ease of processing it’ The Illusion of Validity: WYSIATI Daniel Kahneman Thinking Fast and Slow

  9. Spot The Talent

  10. Talent Identification Why Is It So Difficult ?

  11. Development Coaches Parents Psychological corner Technical corner Clubs Teachers Age? Age? THE PLAYER Games Programme Practice to Games ratio Learning Key Phases Coaching Programme Alternative Activities Age? Age? Age? When? What? Social corner Physical corner Evaluation? Why? How?

  12. Talent Identification UK Sport: Sporting Giants Programme: Rowing, Volleyball and Handball Initial Criteria: Men 6’ 3’’, Women 5’ 11’’ Some athletic background. No sport specific experience ‘ Ultimately trainability not physique is the confirmation. Trainability tells you much more about their future success. It’s a bit like buying a sports car, you test drive it a few times to see whether it can handle the journey before you invest in it ’ Chelsea Warr UK Sport; Head of Athlete Development

  13. 140 / 231 Boxes 18 / 33 no caps until U/18 – 8 / 33 no caps until U/20 – 22 / 33 < 10 caps by U/21

  14. WYSIATI • 6 Key Factors That Influence Judgement: • Performance not potential • Left sided bias through observation (Physical / Technical) • Hidden bias ref D-O-B. • Lack of appropriate reference points • Personal paradigm • Competition (we don’t , they will)

  15. Performance or Potential • Chronological Age • Maturational State • Experience in the Team • Experience in the Position • Opposition Team • Direct Opponent • Recent History ( Activity / Injury ) • In advance of observation OR opinion will be distorted !

  16. Where do they score consistently / Regression to the mean

  17. MATURITY – AGES AND STAGES? 2 BOYS OF SIMILAR CHRONOLOGICAL AGE DO WE COMPARE? DO THEY COMPARE? 17 years 4 months old 17 years 5 months old WHAT ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS? WHAT ARE THEIR EXPECTATIONS? HOW MANY AGES ARE THERE?

  18. Solutions ? • Bio-banding: • Height (cm) x Weight (kg) 1000 Eg 7.2 then + / - 2

  19. AGE WHAT’S THE CONCERN?BOYS BIRTHS IN PROFESSIONAL CLUBS – IS THIS BY CHOICE? Birth preference? 1st September or 31st August QUESTION: ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE BEST PLAYERS BORN SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER? WHO PICKS THE TEAM & WHAT’S THEIR MOTIVE? 57 % 5047 Why are the youngest left out? School and club start. So What? 30 % 13 % 1151 Sep-Dec Jan-Apr May-Aug

  20. 6,078 births of 9 to 16 year olds for season 2004/05 2,025 births of 9 to 16 year olds for season 2004/05 WHEN SCOUTS DECIDE sep-dec = 56% jan-apr = 28% may-aug = 16% sep-dec = 58% jan-apr = 28% may-aug = 14% 1,255 births of 9 to 16 year olds for season 2004/05 10,468 births of 9 to 16 year olds for season 2004/05 WHEN MUMS AND DADS DECIDE sep-dec = 36% jan-apr = 33% may-aug = 31% sep-dec = 39% jan-apr = 31% may-aug = 30%

  21. Solutions ? Split start dates: Schools and Club • Split start dates: Schools and Club football. Schools 1st October to 30th September Clubs 1st January to 31st Dec Schools 1st September to 31st August Clubs 1st January to 31st December

  22. Solutions ? Split start dates: On date of birth

  23. Performance Milestones PARK TOURE What did they do at 10 ? Were they the same ? What do they do now ? Are they the same ? NEUER FORLAN MESSI JUAN

  24. Performance Milestones: 3 Stages • Generic skills / 4 corners; What ? (Ajax : T.I.P.S) • Role specific skills; What ? (When do they impact ?) • Club philosophy; Why ? (What do you want YOUR players to look like ?)

  25. VALENCIA C.F. Players are chosen taking into account:  Their relationship with the ball Decision making capacity Their temperament in competition Their improvement potential. They must be good at all these aspects and excel at some of them. They believe that most of the players who fit these categories are already playing as strikers and they convert them into defenders later, usually by the time they are 15-16.

  26. Performance Milestones

  27. Changing The Paradigm ‘ When Roger Federer plays tennis, he does not make better inferences from a universally accessible pool of sensory information; rather he sees and hears the world in an entirely different way. His deep knowledge of tennis transforms the very fabric of his perceptions.’ Matthew Syed Bounce (The myth of talent and the power of practice)

  28. Changing The Paradigm Do we have to see players / talent in an entirely different way ? Best learners are ? These are right side issues, the more we know, the better guess we can make.

  29. Changing the Paradigm Fixed Mindset eg;When faced with effort, set-backs, failure or more able peers they tend to question their ability. Growth Mindset eg;Recognise that effort, difficulties, failure and mistakes are an inevitable and often essential part of the learning process. Carol Dweck, Mindset: The New Psychology of Success, Ballantine, New York, 2008.

  30. Changing the Paradigm ‘You know why this place is successful, because none of the kids leave here without their mindset transformed. They may arrive thinking they can cruise their way to success, but they quickly learn that nobody has got anywhere in life without working hard, by showing tremendous discipline and by taking responsibility for their actions. That is what ultimately separates the best from the rest’ Nick Bolletieri Quoted in Bounce (The myth of talent and the power of practice) Matthew Syed (2010)

  31. Solutions ? ‘SKILLS EXTRA’ ‘Is the approach to learning the key element that can define those that have reached the very top ? Their motivation to practice, to try new things and to keep going when things don’t work’ ‘We take them all including the younger and smaller ones, they might not be the best ones now, but could have real potential over the longer term, what I call ‘slow burners’ Martin Preston Manager FA / Tesco Skills Coach Programme

  32. Solutions ‘SKILLS EXTRA’ • 106 Specialists working with ‘non elite players’ between ages of 5 and 11. • 2010 • 112 players joined Centres of Excellence or Academies • players joined from Centres of Excellence or Academies . • 2011 • 203 players joined Centres of Excellence or Academies • 105 Players joined from Centres of Excellence or Academies.

  33. Solutions ? Initial Recruitment • England: Formal registration 9 years old. • Informal registration 5 years old. • 9- 13 years old players register for 1 year • year old players register for 2 years • Limited activity outside of club. • Compensation payment system.

  34. Formation Training • CFA – 8 sessions + 1 match 14 players – 10.00 to 12.00 and 4.00 to 6.00pm (Coach - Laurent Huard FT) • Under 18’s – 8 sessions + 1 match 13 players – 10.00 to 12.00 and 4.00 to 6.00pm (Coach - LebrisFabris FT) • Under 16’s – 8 sessions + 1 match (45 minsew) 14 players – 10.00 to 12.00 and 4.00 to 6.00pm ( Coach – Yannick Menu FT) • Under 15’s – 6 sessions + 1 match (40mins ew) 12players – 10.00 to 12.oo Mon to Fri + Wed 4.00 to 6.00pm (Coach Yannick Menu + Franck Haise) • Under14’s – 5 Sessions + 1 match (40 minsew) • 4.30 to 7.00pm (Coach Franck Haise FT) 21Players • Under 13’s – 3 to 5 sessions + 1 match (35 minsew) • (Coach – Vincent Garnier FT) • GK’s – 7 Sessions per week (Coach – Francois Seguin FT) Amateur Section 2x Adult Teams 2x U18 Teams 2x U15 Teams 3xU13 Teams – 11v11 3x U11 Teams – 9v9 3x U9 Teams – 7v7 Debutants = U6 and U7’s Parents pay 50 Euros for Registration

  35. Increased Retention The under 18/19s have one team and have 25 players The under 16s/17s have 2 teams and 50 players. The under 15s/14s retain 65 players and have 3 teams (this higher figure to allow for maturation/puberty issues).

  36. There is a call to service, that will take great courage to leave what we have and move out, not without fear but without succumbing to that fear . It is a call to re-define what is possible, to see a vision of a new world and be willing to undertake step by step what is necessary in concrete terms to achieve that vision. H. Fromm

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