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Getting the numbers right. A progress report. Tim Bush Head of Governance and Financial Analysis PIRC Ltd (Research & engagement partner to LAPFF). ??. 2005 Iain Richards. “Bringing Audit Back from the brink” Main theme that auditors were losing the plot.
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Getting the numbers right A progress report Tim Bush Head of Governance and Financial Analysis PIRC Ltd (Research & engagement partner to LAPFF)
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2005 Iain Richards • “Bringing Audit Back from the brink” • Main theme that auditors were losing the plot. • Became clear that accounting standard setters had lost the plot. • Prophetic. • But it went over the brink.... Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
2011 LAPFF Banks Post Mortem • It happened. • Near total collapse of UK and Irish capital adequacy regimes. • Became clear that accounting standard setters had lost the plot and FSA had gone along with it. Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
Who left the gate open? Some things are quite difficult to own up to.... Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
What next? ? Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
The Accountants, FRC & FSA Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
Motto of the Accountants Complicate Distract Confuse Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
LAPPF Crying Wolf? • LAPFF puts out estimates of losses in banks from 2011 • Is dismissed in many quarters.... Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
PRA to the rescue... • PRA November 2012 • Industry wide estimate of losses still in system £50bn, similar to LAPFF • May 2013 PRA puts out the numbers by bank • Co-op Bankis bust • RBS totally dysfunctional. CEO exits. Reprivatisation not in sight. Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
Legal Opinion – George Bompas QC • LAPFF • Threadneedle • USS • UK Shareholders • Company Law should prevail over standards not consistent with T&FV • Specific IFRS outcomes problematic • Confusion Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
FRC goes back to its QC • The Bompas questions were: • Rephrased and not answered • The one question answered-excluded cases & basic reading of the statute • And self referential (i.e. own prior work). • Confusion reigns. Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
Where next? • All UK investment bodies have signed up to the issues that the investor coalition raised: • T&FV • Prudence • Maintenance of capital Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush
To Be Continued Getting the numbers right | Tim Bush