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Examiner Interviews Best P ractices. Interview Time FY 2008 – FY 2013 . 23,503 hours in FY 2013, compared with 21,273 hours in FY 2012. 6,651 interview hours in FY 13 have been charged through the AFCP program. Influence of Interviews on Compliance Rate.
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Interview TimeFY 2008 – FY 2013 23,503 hours in FY 2013, compared with 21,273 hours in FY 2012. 6,651 interview hours in FY 13 have been charged through the AFCP program.
Influence of Interviews on Compliance Rate Based on random samples of over 28,000 Allowances and Final Rejections from FY 2008 – FY 2012
Interview Preparation • Useful content of a detailed Agenda may include: • General intent and/or goal of interview • Brief summary of arguments (if applicable) • Applied references • Evidence relied upon • Proposed amendments • Not submitting an agenda is not a valid reason to deny an interview • Review the application history including the prior art • Understand the inventive concept • Identify allowable subject matter where appropriate • Be prepared to explain position of previous action
Recordation of Interviews • Use the appropriate Interview Summary form and fill out completely • Attach agenda and any items (including proposed amendments) provided for the interview • Be specifics regarding issues discussed • Clearly document all agreements • Agreement can be reached for various issues, such as allowability, interpretation of claim limitations, priority dates, application of case law, next steps to be taken, statutory subject matter, etc. • Make sure the record is complete
Next Steps • Clarify Agreements • Record Specific Issues Resolved • Note Any Interpretations Agreed Upon • Identify Allowable Subject Matter, if any • Record Specific Claim Language • Specify What Prior Art is Overcome • Commit to Specific Steps & Assign responsibility • Examiner steps, for example: • - Consult with Subject Matter Expert • - Perform Update Search • Applicant steps, for example: • - Consult with Applicant • - File Response • Provide Clear Timeline & Follow-Up 6 6
Interview Statistics • Telephonic interviews • in 2011, 164 cases interviewed, both first and final OAs • 27% cases had next action allowances • In-person interviews • 20 cases interviewed in person over a 4 day period • 5 allowances • 1 abandoned • 1 notice of appeal • 6 RCEs • 4 new office actions • 3 awaiting next action
Benefits of Examiner Interviews • Faster resolution of issues, allowance of applications • Improved patent quality • USPTO recently analyzed correlation between patent quality and whether an interview was conducted • “The data shows that interviews help decrease both improper allowances and improper rejections by approximately 40 percent compared to applications without interviews prior to the final disposition.” Director Kappos’ Public Blog, January 15, 2013
Benefits of Examiner Interviews • Discuss possible ways of overcoming rejections without creating extensive file history that can be exploited during litigation • Find out if the examiner thinks there is allowable subject matter • Find out if the examiner has problems that have not been stated in the written record and that can be easily addressed
Benefits of Examiner Interviews • Introduce the examiner to the inventor(s) • Many examiners have science and engineering backgrounds, and may appreciate discussing the technology with an inventor and feel more personally connected to the case after meeting him or her • The inventor is likely in a better position to explain the nuances of the technology
Benefits of Examiner Interviews • Develop a rapport with the examiner • Establish credibility and trust • Get more assistance during prosecution • You may have many other applications with the same examiner
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Understand the psychology and perspective of examiners in general • Examiners are just doing their jobs – don’t make it personal • Always be professional and courteous • Some examiners feel underpaid and underappreciated • A little bit of respect can go a long way
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Understand the psychology and perspective of examiners in general • Many examiners are not attorneys • They generally do not view the examination process as adversarial, so don’t treat it that way • Unless there are glaring legal errors in the rejections, it may be better to focus the arguments on the technology, e.g., explain distinctions from the prior art • It is more effective to cite legal principles from the M.P.E.P. rather than case law
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Understand the psychology and perspective of examiners in general • Examiners work under significant time constraints • Don’t expect as much time investment by the examiner after FAOM, and especially after-final • Interview after FAOM, not after-final • Propose solutions that will make their jobs easier, e.g., narrowing amendments, CONS
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Understand the psychology and perspective of examiners in general • Examiners work under significant time constraints • Don’t pile on weak arguments – annoying for the examiner, and makes it easier for the examiner to focus on the weakest arguments
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Understand the particular examiner on your application • Is the examiner new and still learning? • Has the examiner made an honest mistake? • Is the examiner just being unreasonable?
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Thorough preparation is essential • Don’t waste valuable time during the interview • Must have complete knowledge of the file history, cited references, and relevant law • Think through all possible arguments/counterarguments
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Thorough preparation is essential • Mock interviews can be useful to explore how different arguments may play out, and identify potential weaknesses • Have multiple fallback positions and possible claim amendments ready so that you can respond to whatever course the interview takes
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Listen to the examiner, ask questions, and create a dialogue • Don’t just lecture • Bring an inventor • Often useful to help explain the technology and establish a rapport • But generally not a good idea to allow the inventor to discuss the legal issues, unless he or she is qualified
Strategies for Successful Interviews • Preparing an agenda • Provide the examiner with enough information to be prepared to cover all the issues you want to • But don’t provide too many details, so that you have some flexibility in the interview, and in case the agenda is made part of the official record • Timing of the interview • After FAOM • A few weeks out from end of a quarter, but not end of quarter