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John 5

John 5. Two Toxic Mentalities. The Book of John. John 20:31 – These have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name Tonight: What keeps people from believing?. John 5.

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John 5

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  1. John 5 Two Toxic Mentalities

  2. The Book of John John 20:31 – These have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name Tonight: What keeps people from believing?

  3. John 5 1 Afterward Jesus returned to Jerusalem for one of the Jewish holy days. 2 Inside the city, near the Sheep Gate, was the pool of Bethesda, with five covered porches.

  4. John 5 1 Afterward Jesus returned to Jerusalem for one of the Jewish holy days. 2 Inside the city, near the Sheep Gate, was the pool of Bethesda, with five covered porches.

  5. J.P MorelandChristian Author, Philosopher, Professor at Biola Over and over again, archaeologists have made discoveries that confirm completely irrelevant, “picky little” details in Gospel stories. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind (NavPress 2012)

  6. J.P MorelandChristian Author, Philosopher, Professor at Biola If one is writing a legend, one does not take pains to get small details accurate, especially if they have nothing to do with the reason for writing the account in the first place. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind (NavPress 2012)

  7. J.P MorelandChristian Author, Philosopher, Professor at Biola Such confirmation shows that the Gospel writers were trying to get it right, even down to the level of insignificant details. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind (NavPress 2012)

  8. J.P MorelandChristian Author, Philosopher, Professor at Biola In John 5:1-15, Jesus is supposed to have healed a man at a place called the pool of Bethesda. The passage says that the pool was surrounded by five porticos (rows of columns supporting a roof). Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind (NavPress 2012)

  9. J.P MorelandChristian Author, Philosopher, Professor at Biola Until the 1890s, critics dismissed the entire narrative on the grounds that no one had ever discovered the pool. But, then, archaeologists discovered the pool, and it had exactly five porticoes, just as John said. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind (NavPress 2012)

  10. Each pool was the size of a football field and about twenty feet deep

  11. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches.

  12. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches. [—waiting for a certain movement of the water, 4 for an angel of the Lord came from time to time and stirred up the water. And the first person to step in after the water was stirred was healed of whatever disease he had.]

  13. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches. [—waiting for a certain movement of the water, 4 for an angel of the Lord came from time to time and stirred up the water. And the first person to step in after the water was stirred was healed of whatever disease he had.] NASB Footnote: Early mss do not contain the remainder of v 3, nor v 4

  14. Daniel WallaceNT scholar; Dallas Theological Seminary No classical Greek or Latin text has nearly as many variants, because they don’t have nearly as many manuscripts. Ehrman, Bart D., Daniel B. Wallace, and Robert B. Stewart. The Reliability of the New Testament. Minneapolis: Fortress, 2011. 33. Over 5500 Greek NT manuscripts!

  15. Daniel WallaceNT scholar; Dallas Theological Seminary With virtually every new manuscript discovery, new variants are found. If there was only one copy of the New Testament in existence, it would have zero variants. Ehrman, Bart D., Daniel B. Wallace, and Robert B. Stewart. The Reliability of the New Testament. Minneapolis: Fortress, 2011. 33.

  16. Daniel WallaceNT scholar; Dallas Theological Seminary Many of these are fragmentary, of course, especially the older ones, but the average Greek New Testament manuscript is well over 400 pages long. Altogether, there are more than 2.5 million pages of texts. Ehrman, Bart D., Daniel B. Wallace, and Robert B. Stewart. The Reliability of the New Testament. Minneapolis: Fortress, 2011. 33.

  17. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches. [—waiting for a certain movement of the water, 4 for an angel of the Lord came from time to time and stirred up the water. And the first person to step in after the water was stirred was healed of whatever disease he had.]

  18. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches.

  19. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches. This would have been a miserable place Yet this is where Jesus chose to visit

  20. John 5 3 Crowds of sick people—blind, lame, or paralyzed—lay on the porches. 5 One of the men lying there had been sick for thirty-eight years.

  21. John 5 6 When Jesus saw him and knew he had been ill for a long time, he asked him, “Would you like to get well?”

  22. John 5 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.”

  23. John 5 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” • What do you notice about his response? • Complaining about his problems • Insulting himself • Blaming & envious of others • Lonely • Doesn’t say yes.

  24. John 5 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” • What do you notice about his response? • Complaining about his problems • Insulting himself • Blaming & envious of others • Lonely • Doesn’t say yes. Or no! Faith Barrier #1: Victim Mentality

  25. John 5 • Some people have had really bad things happen to them • Victims always seem to have problems • Incompetent boss/ vindictive professor • Finances • Bad roommate • Crazy girlfriend/ boyfriend • Stuff always breaks, alarm never goes off. “Can I borrow yours?” 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” Faith Barrier #1: Victim Mentality

  26. John 5 • What is appealing about victim mentality? • No need for personal responsibility • Possibility of failure if you try • It’s not their fault that they got into this situation. They didn’t fail. • They can admit they are messed up with no desire for life change • Tends to reinforce itself • These are incompatible with faith 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” Faith Barrier #1: Victim Mentality

  27. John 5 • Victims fail to believe… • That it’s actually going to be better to take responsibility. • That there is more hope in admitting that I am part of the problem and living as an adult. • In the power of God to change you into a victorious sufferer 7 “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” Faith Barrier #1: Victim Mentality

  28. John 5 8 Jesus told him, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and walk!” 9 Instantly, the man was healed! He rolled up his sleeping mat and began walking!

  29. John 5 8 Jesus told him, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and walk!” 9 Instantly, the man was healed! He rolled up his sleeping mat and began walking! But this miracle happened on the Sabbath, I wonder how the others felt watching him walk away But where is his faith?

  30. John 5 10 so the Jewish leaders objected. They said to the man who was cured, “You can’t work on the Sabbath!The law doesn’t allow you to carry that sleeping mat!”

  31. John 5 10 so the Jewish leaders objected. They said to the man who was cured, “You can’t work on the Sabbath!The law doesn’t allow you to carry that sleeping mat!” • What do you notice about this response? • They thought it was bad that Jesus relieved this man’s lifelong agony • They thought it was good that they busted him for this violation • Painting God to be a jerk • Complete lack of love Faith Barrier #2: Religious Mentality

  32. John 5 10 so the Jewish leaders objected. They said to the man who was cured, “You can’t work on the Sabbath!The law doesn’t allow you to carry that sleeping mat!” True False Faith Barrier #2: Religious Mentality

  33. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar These Jewish legalists had a passion for definition. So they asked: What is work? All kinds of things were classified as work. For instance, to carry a burden on the Sabbath Day is to work. But next a burden has to be defined. William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  34. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar So the Scribal Law lays it down that a burden is ‘food equal in weight to a dried fig, enough wine for mixing in a goblet, milk enough for one swallow, honey enough to put upon a wound, William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  35. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar oil enough to anoint a small member, water enough to moisten an eye-salve, paper enough to write a customs house notice upon, ink enough to write two letters of the alphabet, reed enough to make a pen’—and so on endlessly. William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  36. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar So they spent endless hours arguing whether a man could or could not lift a lamp from one place to another on the Sabbath,  William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  37. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar whether a tailor committed a sin if he went out with a needle in his robe, whether a woman might wear a brooch or false hair, even if a man might go out on the Sabbath with artificial teeth or an artificial limb, if a man might lift his child on the Sabbath Day. William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  38. William BarclayNaturalistic NT Scholar These things to them were the essence of religion. Their religion was a legalism of petty rules and regulations. William Barclay, The Gospel of Matthew (Edinburgh: The Saint Andrew Press, 1963), I, p. 124-125.

  39. Mishnah 10:6 – He who pares his fingernails with one another, or with his teeth, so too [if he pulled out the hair of] his (1) head, (2) moustache, or (3) beard— Jacob Neusner, The Mishnah : A New Translation, 191-92 (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1988). Shabbat 10:6Discussing what constitutes “work”

  40. Mishnah and so she who (1) dresses her hair, (2) puts on eye shadow, or (3) rouges her face— R. Eliezer declares liable [for doing so on the Sabbath]. And sages prohibit [doing so] because of [the principle of] Sabbath rest. Jacob Neusner, The Mishnah : A New Translation, 191-92 (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1988). Shabbat 10:6Discussing what constitutes “work”

  41. Why the religious can’t please God: Religious people can’t focus on what God really wants (internal) Comparisons try to remove the need for grace John 5 10 so the Jewish leaders objected. They said to the man who was cured, “You can’t work on the Sabbath!The law doesn’t allow you to carry that sleeping mat!” Faith Barrier #2: Religious Mentality

  42. John 5 11 But he replied, “The man who healed me told me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’ ”

  43. John 5 12 “Who said such a thing as that?” they demanded. 13 The man didn’t know, for Jesus had disappeared into the crowd. Victims tend to be self-absorbed

  44. John 5 14 But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, “Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.”

  45. John 5 14 But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, “Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.” • Jesus seeks him out • Calling for repentance, not perfection • Not that his illness was caused by sin (John 9:1-3) • His attitude will lead to “something even worse”

  46. John 5 14 But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, “Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.” • Dealing with victims • Jesus is compassionate, and even helps the guy • Jesus asks him if he really wants to get better

  47. John 5 14 But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, “Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.” • Dealing with victims • Jesus calls his sin what it is and warns him of the need to repent • Puts responsibility where it belongs • May need to forgive

  48. John 5 14 But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, “Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.” • Dealing with victims • Jesus calls his sin what it is and warns him of the need to repent • Sad to see a dog return to its vomit • Even sadder to see my own reflection in this man

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