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LBE. TF-NGN Budapest 17-18 October 2002. Agenda. G É ANT D9.9 deliverable summary Test reports for LBE on G É ANT (Nicolas) Tests for LBE at the edge Limerick resolutions: DSCP transparency to Abilene Common “Scavenger” DSCP value (001000) LBE demo to SC2002 (Lada)

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  1. LBE TF-NGN Budapest 17-18 October 2002

  2. Agenda • GÉANT D9.9 deliverable summary • Test reports for LBE on GÉANT (Nicolas) • Tests for LBE at the edge • Limerick resolutions: • DSCP transparency to Abilene • Common “Scavenger” DSCP value (001000) • LBE demo to SC2002 (Lada) • LBE deployment scenarios

  3. Summary of D9.9 (LBE) • Report contained: • LBE history • LBE service description • Deployment scenarios • LBE test programme • GÉANT tests (Tiziana et al) • Detailed results – Nicolas has an overview next… • Proposed edge tests (Tim/Stig) • Sample Juniper configurations • Future work • www.dante.net/tf-ngn/D9.9-lbe.pdf

  4. GÉANT LBE test results • Presentation by Nicolas Simar (DANTE) • Work coordinated by Tiziana Ferrari (INFN) • Possible implementation alongside Premium IP? • Transparency or “full” queuing policy?

  5. Proposed edge tests • Should be run very soon (Oct/Nov) • Southampton – UNINETT • Via MAN, JANET, GÉANT, NORDUnet, UNINETT • DSCP transparency end-to-end • Apply policy at edges • Contention on router at edge/access networks • Cisco router at UoS • Limit interface to 10Mbit/s • Use Stig’s FTP server patch for LBE • Question over best measurement tool(s) • Aim to integrate results into full QOS-2003 paper • Notification of acceptance by Nov 20th

  6. Limerick resolutions • Joint meeting including Internet2 people • Special TNC2002 BoF session • Proposals • Agree common DSCP (001000) • Implement transparency GÉANT-Abilene • Suggest DSCP usage “policy” to IETF(!) • DSCP (8) and transparency achieved • Seeking demonstrator for GEANT to I2 • Demonstrate bulk data transfer • Simultaneous “live” application use

  7. Abilene ToS traceroute… • # ./dtraceroute -t 32 www.internet2.edu • traceroute to www.internet2.edu (207.75.164.64), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets • 1 servers-router.core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (152.78.68.190) 1 ms 0 ms 0 ms • 2 * 192.168.250.253 (192.168.250.253) 1 ms * • 3 152.78.108.6 (152.78.108.6) 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms • 4 b54gagesw1-aa.net.soton.ac.uk (152.78.108.62) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 5 152.78.109.8 (152.78.109.8) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 6 152.78.0.30 (152.78.0.30) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 7 212.219.151.113 (212.219.151.113) 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms • 8 212.219.151.121 (212.219.151.121) 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms • 9 * * * • 10 146.97.40.2 (146.97.40.2) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms • 11 cosham-bar.ja.net (146.97.40.1) 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms • 12 po9-0.cosh-scr.ja.net (146.97.35.21) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 13 po2-0.lond-scr.ja.net (146.97.33.41) 5 ms 6 ms 25 ms • 14 po0-0.london-bar4.ja.net (146.97.35.130) 5 ms 6 ms 14 ms • 15 geant-gw.ja.net (146.97.37.82) 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms • 16 janet.uk1.uk.geant.net (62.40.103.149) 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms • 17 uk.fr1.fr.geant.net (62.40.96.89) 12 ms 14 ms 13 ms • 18 fr.de1.de.geant.net (62.40.96.49) 21 ms 40 ms 21 ms • 19 de1-1.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.130) 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms • 20 abilene-gtren-gw.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.103.254) 112 ms 112 ms 112 ms • 21 clev-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.29) 124 ms 124 ms 124 ms • 22 192.122.183.9 (192.122.183.9) 139 ms 139 ms 139 ms • 23 pos0-0-0.ucaid.mich.net (198.108.90.118) 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms • 24 brubeck.internet2.edu (207.75.164.64) 139 ms 156 ms 139 ms

  8. And to WIDE… • # ./dtraceroute -t 32 www.wide.ad.jp • traceroute to www.wide.ad.jp (203.178.136.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets • 1 servers-router.core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (152.78.68.190) 1 ms 0 ms 0 ms • 2 192.168.250.253 (192.168.250.253) 1 ms * 1 ms • 3 152.78.108.6 (152.78.108.6) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 4 b54gagesw1-aa.net.soton.ac.uk (152.78.108.62) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 5 152.78.109.8 (152.78.109.8) 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms • 6 152.78.0.30 (152.78.0.30) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 7 212.219.151.113 (212.219.151.113) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 8 212.219.151.121 (212.219.151.121) 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms • 9 * * * • 10 146.97.40.2 (146.97.40.2) 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms • 11 cosham-bar.ja.net (146.97.40.1) 3 ms 4 ms 5 ms • 12 po9-0.cosh-scr.ja.net (146.97.35.21) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 13 po2-0.lond-scr.ja.net (146.97.33.41) 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms • 14 po0-0.london-bar4.ja.net (146.97.35.130) 20 ms 5 ms 8 ms • 15 geant-gw.ja.net (146.97.37.82) 7 ms 5 ms 6 ms • 16 janet.uk1.uk.geant.net (62.40.103.149) 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms • 17 uk.fr1.fr.geant.net (62.40.96.89) 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms • 18 fr.de1.de.geant.net (62.40.96.49) 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms • 19 de1-1.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.130) 37 ms 21 ms 31 ms • 20 abilene-gtren-gw.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.103.254) 112 ms 111 ms 111 ms • 21 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 112 ms 112 ms 112 ms • 22 chinng-nycmng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.82) 132 ms 140 ms 132 ms • 23 iplsng-chinng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.77) 145 ms 135 ms 153 ms • 24 ipls-iplsng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.115) 135 ms 136 ms 136 ms • 25 kscy-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.5) 145 ms 145 ms 145 ms • 26 dnvr-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.13) 156 ms 156 ms 157 ms • 27 sttl-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.49) 183 ms 194 ms 184 ms • 28 TRANSPAC-PWAVE.pnw-gigapop.net (198.32.170.46) 187 ms 184 ms 184 ms • 29 192.203.116.34 (192.203.116.34) 298 ms 298 ms 298 ms • 30 wide-tpr3.jp.apan.net (203.181.249.89) 306 ms 299 ms 298 ms

  9. And to Greece (sorry :-) • # ./dtraceroute -t 32 www.ntua.gr • traceroute to achilles.noc.ntua.gr (147.102.222.210), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets • 1 servers-router.core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (152.78.68.190) 1 ms 0 ms 1 ms • 2 192.168.250.253 (192.168.250.253) 1 ms * 1 ms • 3 152.78.108.6 (152.78.108.6) 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms • 4 b54gagesw1-aa.net.soton.ac.uk (152.78.108.62) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 5 152.78.109.8 (152.78.109.8) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 6 152.78.0.30 (152.78.0.30) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 7 212.219.151.113 (212.219.151.113) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms • 8 212.219.151.121 (212.219.151.121) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 9 * * * • 10 146.97.40.2 (146.97.40.2) 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 11 cosham-bar.ja.net (146.97.40.1) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms • 12 po9-0.cosh-scr.ja.net (146.97.35.21) 4 ms 3 ms 5 ms • 13 po2-0.lond-scr.ja.net (146.97.33.41) 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms • 14 po0-0.london-bar4.ja.net (146.97.35.130) 9 ms 5 ms 6 ms • 15 geant-gw.ja.net (146.97.37.82) 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms • 16 janet.uk1.uk.geant.net (62.40.103.149) 6 ms 19 ms 6 ms • 17 uk.gr1.gr.geant.net (62.40.96.97) 106 ms (TOS=0!) 107 ms 123 ms • 18 grnet-gw.gr1.gr.geant.net (62.40.103.58) 106 ms 106 ms 106 ms • …….

  10. LBE/Scavenger I2 demo • Presentation by Lada Lhotka (CESNET) • Suggestion for SC2002, Nov 16th->

  11. LBE scenario discussion • Where might we use LBE first? • (implied usage of TCP not UDP!) • Bulk data transfer (GRID) • Data mirrors, FTP servers • Separating production and test traffic • Support of new transport protocols (TCP tuning) • Student dormitory networks (enforced) • Remote network backups • Non-disruptive available bandwidth measure? • Others? Where is the real congestion? • Possibility to run IPv6 LBE in 6NET WP4

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